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How much would it cost to insure that fucking flaming death trap?
Not many 100 year old cinderblock houses around.. almost all the places I love are wood construction. Key is to follow codes and no fires should happen if you do.
 

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Real lightening gets a fair number of houses around here.

Many of the 100 plus year old houses get hit from knob and tube wiring here.. the last victorian I owned some asshole electrition went to the trouble to rewire the basement, 1st floor and second floor with BX cable (even though he could have used romex by code). I did some work on the third floor and found this asshole tied the knob and tub wiring into a junction box fed by one circuit. Turned out they never replaced the knob and tube on the third floor.. how the inspector missed that is hard to understand. But it must be common in that neighborhood as most fires where third floor fires in the old homes.


The old victorian to my suprise had a roof lightning rod network done properly to ground.
 

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Will this make a profit in the time frame from start to sell.. here if a house isn't flipped in less then a year you pay the property taxes. That a big nut in some areas and can put you in the hole on a project flip
 

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Here in CT, property taxes are pro rated at closing.
i.e. property taxes are levied on an Oct 1 - September 30 year, amount $4800/ yr.
If the closing is April 1, six months into the taxyear, the seller pays the buyer $2400. A flipper owns it for a month of the taxyear, the buyer gets back $400. If the renovation takes 11 months, the buyer gets back $4400 at closing.

There ain't no free lunch.
 
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Here in Indiana they give homestead exemptions to banks that own foreclosed properties, then when someone else buys it they bump up their assessed value. Apparently homes that are owned by individuals are worth more or something.
 

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That's interesting. You don't get a lot of timber houses like that over here. mainly because lumber isn't as plentiful or cheap as brick, you do get the odd internal framed with a outer skin of brick but even that isn't too common.
 

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It's looking great with the open porch BUT... they did lose quite a bit of square footage by opening it up. Doesn't that hurt the value?
 
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It's looking great with the open porch BUT... they did lose quite a bit of square footage by opening it up. Doesn't that hurt the value?
Yes and no... To be honest the layout of the house changed. 3 bed room now with more living space...

The owner questioned the loss of the floor space as well. I told her to build a new house if that was what this was about....
It will be one of the nicest homes in the area, that was restored any way.
 
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Some kind of synthetic underlayment i hope. The name "quick felt" is suspicious though as felt underlayment is shit I wouldnt use. Well maybe on a shed.
 

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Some kind of synthetic underlayment i hope. The name "quick felt" is suspicious though as felt underlayment is shit I wouldnt use. Well maybe on a shed.
It's a nailed or stapled synthetic....I looked it up.

I dried in my house with synthetic.

When I hired a roofer....because there's no way I'd have the skill to install clay roof tiles...he insisted on installing 30# felt over my underlayment. He is not a believer in the "new fangled plastic." It was only a couple hundred $$ so I did it....now I have two barriers under the tile.
 
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When I hired a roofer....because there's no way I'd have the skill to install clay roof tiles...he insisted on installing 30# felt over my underlayment. He is not a believer in the "new fangled plastic." It was only a couple hundred $$ so I did it....now I have two barriers under the tile.
With your help you got a good roof though is all that matters. That "new fangled plastic" I've noticed no reputable roofer wants to warranty anything without it. Felt paper isn't your father's "tar paper"
 

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With your help you got a good roof though is all that matters. That "new fangled plastic" I've noticed no reputable roofer wants to warranty anything without it. Felt paper isn't your father's "tar paper"
Everyone with any sense here uses peel and stick underlayment. It kind of looks like felt/tar paper, but has non slip grit on it.
 

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Peel and stick on the entire roof is usually for metal roofs or if you're rich or in hurricane country.
15# or 30# "tar paper" is still as good as it ever was. Plus it doesn't deteriorate in UV like the synthetic does.
I used the synthetic because it's lighter and easier to handle by myself. Plus it is non skid. If you were to slip
and slide down the roof on top of it you would have no skin left. It has a monofilament "grid" molded into it
so you can walk on it like it's made of upside down bottle caps.
If you look closely at the ridge you can see it.......

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We get a bit of an insurance discount for the peel and stick. Usually only a couple hundred bucks, so instead of $1,800 a year, it's only $1,600 a year.
 

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Here some roof porn, very good friend up in up Maine is a craftsman with copper and slate roofs. I took these a few months ago. He fabs everything in his shop from flat sheets, even that bad ass finial.

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Here some roof porn, very good friend up in up Maine is a craftsman with copper and slate roofs. I took these a few months ago. He fabs everything in his shop from flat sheets, even that bad ass finial.

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I'd put a pile of lightening rods on that roof. Or at the very least ground it to a buried copper rod.
 

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Lightning rods are not always such a great idea.

A friend who lived in a mountain top neighborhood had some sharp salesman come by and convinced him he needed one.

After it was installed, every time there was a heavy storm, lightning would strike the rig he had setup on his roof and it would knock pictures off the walls and upset his wife''s nick-nacs.
It didn't take long for him to remove his new lightning rods.
 

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The chimney begs for a rod or two. I've looked into doing my house, it would run me a bit over $500.00 for supplies. Maybe more now since I priced it out a few years ago.
A lot of house fires around here are caused by lightning.
 

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Lightning rods are not always such a great idea.

A friend who lived in a mountain top neighborhood had some sharp salesman come by and convinced him he needed one.

After it was installed, every time there was a heavy storm, lightning would strike the rig he had setup on his roof and it would knock pictures off the walls and upset his wife''s nick-nacs.
It didn't take long for him to remove his new lightning rods.
Bad install. Many, many building have them here, almost all the churches have them which I find humorous.
All the old barns and houses had them up in Dakota Territory.
 
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