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ussia’s Lavrov ‘forced to cancel Serbia visit’
A visit to Serbia by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has been cancelled after countries around the Balkan nation closed their airspace to his aircraft, according to media reports.


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With the Ukrainians and Russians exchanging artillery fire in the Donbas, Zelenskyy asked the U.S. for its High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, known as HIMARS.

With strike capabilities of almost 50 miles, this could put Russia itself in range. But U.S. officials say they have assurances from Ukrainian leaders that HIMARS will not be used against Russian territory.

The Kremlin has warned that any nation sending advanced weapons to Ukraine will face harsh repercussions. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has charged the West with declaring “total war” on Russia.

What this suggests is that the war is now generating greater risks and dangers for the U.S. than any additional rewards we might realize from “weakening” Russia with further fighting.

It may be time to tell Zelenskyy not only what we will and will not provide but what we believe are the acceptable terms for a truce.
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US and Ukraine, Goals in Conflict – Patrick J. Buchanan – Official Website
 

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Everything Biden does is total shit lol


In early april we pointed to preliminary evidence that the Russian economy was defying predictions of collapse, even as Western countries introduced unprecedented sanctions. Recent data further support this view. Helped along by capital controls and high interest rates, the rouble is now as valuable as it was before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in late February (see top chart). Russia appears to be keeping up with payments of its foreign-currency bonds.

The real economy is surprisingly resilient too. True, Russian consumer prices have risen by more than 10% since the beginning of the year, as the rouble’s initial depreciation made imports more expensive and many Western companies pulled out, reducing supply. The number of firms late on their wage payments seems to be growing.”

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True, but it's being supported by oil exports and artificially propped up by economic policies that aren't sustainable. Their inflation rate is double that of the US (over 17%)- watch what happens when the EU cuts their imports by 2/3rds, which they've pledged to do this year.
 

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India just elevated Russia to their #2 oil supply partner

And the EU is a basket case

We shall see if they’ll be able to cut off the flow of Russian energy because…winter is coming
 

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The cuts start in early December- oil imports from Russia may rise up to that period, but they're going to drop severely afterward. India can't make up for it.
 

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India just elevated Russia to their #2 oil supply partner

And the EU is a basket case

We shall see if they’ll be able to cut off the flow of Russian energy because…winter is coming
I dont often agree with your prognostications but I think you've got this one dialed in.

IF the United States doesnt gift enough CNG to eastern europe (note I said gift, not cheap) then there will be unprecedented flaunting of EU policy by countries suffering frozen pipes, frozen to death independent elderly, compromised emergency services/military, et cetera.

The directive to ban purchase of russian CNG was a brave noise but wholly unsustainable without the charity of western producers. And charity is probably not the right word. Think the bailout of Greece in the 2010s.
 

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When Venezuela fails to make up for the EU shortfall and all their windmills are frozen solid and weeks of grey winter skies render their solar panels to Instagram skateboard props, I’d double my price if I was Putin :D
 

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It's possible some EU countries will cave to some degree, but Russia's exports will certainly decrease, even if they cut the price and dump it cheaply to India and India. Oil prices are likely to go higher no matter what happens. Russia isn't the only game in town, though, and supply lines get modified due to various conditions all the time- US exports to the EU have surged. Time will tell.
 

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Interesting, balanced article re: the logistical issues Russia faces by losing a share of the EU market and moving their supply lines to the Asia region, and the challenges faced by the EU through sanctioning Russian oil:

 

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Interesting article re: the logistical issues Russia faces by losing a share of the EU market and moving their supply lines to the Asia region, and the challenges faced by the EU through sanctioning Russian oil:

Europe is a retirement residence inside of a museum that exists only because of an American financed shield...which is now in the command of a senile pensioner

Just like the Balkan wars of the 90's, this invasion has exposed just how woefully ineffectual and vulnerable the EU is
 

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The US can step in an make up for the Russian oil losses, though it would come at a price to Americans- recent history has certainly shown a willingness to make a big economic move to support Ukraine. It wouldn't take long (a few months) of cuts for Russia to take a severe hit.
 

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The US can step in an make up for the Russian oil losses, though it would come at a price to Americans- recent history has certainly shown a willingness to make a big economic move to support Ukraine. It wouldn't take long (a few months) of cuts for Russia to take a severe hit.
Siphoning the strategic reserve for foreigners is political suicide in a landscape of a > $5 / gallon national average
 

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Siphoning the strategic reserve for foreigners is political suicide in a landscape of a > $5 / gallon national average
I didn't say it was a good idea- I said previous (recent) moves showed it's something that would be on the table. In any case, the EU has been increasing their US oil imports significantly lately in anticipation of the sanctions, so there are already moves to modify supply lines.
 

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Siphoning the strategic reserve for foreigners is political suicide in a landscape of a > $5 / gallon national average
You should've been a commode-ianne.

Political suicide? That dude is in lame duck status already. Even the board socialists can't crow any of his accomplishments. THAT is statistically significunt.
 

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Congress isn't going to be a huge factor- even if Reps take both the House and Senate, they still wouldn't have a filibuster/veto-proof majority. Biden has presidential powers that allow him to make unilateral moves to sanction Russia/support Ukraine. Like it or not, this is going to be ridden out with Sleepy Joe at the helm.
 

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When Venezuela fails to make up for the EU shortfall and all their windmills are frozen solid and weeks of grey winter skies render their solar panels to Instagram skateboard props, I’d double my price if I was Putin :D
BBC News - Gazprom: Germany accuses Russian gas giant of pushing energy prices up
 

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BBC News - Gazprom: Germany accuses Russian gas giant of pushing energy prices up
Yes

And I believe the Gazprom chairman is none other than former German chancellor Gerhard Schroder

Soon after Germany started their campaign to dismantle nuclear power in favor of wind solar and hamster wheels which only made the Krauts ever more reliant on gas and oil

And here we are

Oh what a tangled web
 

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And I believe the Gazprom chairman is none other than former German chancellor Gerhard Schroder
Are you talking through your hat or you sincerely believe it?

It would be earth shattering if true. What would constitute prima facie?
 

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Are you talking through your hat or you sincerely believe it?

It would be earth shattering if true. What would constitute prima facie?
It’s true

Germany's former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder to join Gazprom board
Gerhard Schröder, a former German chancellor with close ties to Russia, has been tapped to join the Gazprom supervisory board. Schröder has come under fire in Germany for working in the Russian energy sector.

...and then he turned down the appointment, but...

Schröder has worked for Russian state-owned energy companies, including Nord Stream AG, Rosneft, and Gazprom
 
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It’s true

Germany's former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder to join Gazprom board
Gerhard Schröder, a former German chancellor with close ties to Russia, has been tapped to join the Gazprom supervisory board. Schröder has come under fire in Germany for working in the Russian energy sector.

...and then he turned down the appointment, but...

Schröder has worked for Russian state-owned energy companies, including Nord Stream AG, Rosneft, and Gazprom
Well this is just sloppiness. At least put a believable intermediary between them.
 

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Biden warns oil companies in his letter that “at a time of war, refinery profit margins well above normal being passed directly onto American families are not acceptable.”
Biden keeps saying, "at time of war", like someone talking in the active first person sense, rather than the original remote standing _ we will supply aid to a corrupt shithole country, in the name of ( insert excuse) ~ freedom. Now he is ready to use cold war powers, that he may or may not have rights to use in matters of world commerce, in an effort to correct problems, that he was a major contributer in creating. So what's next on his constant inching us into the fucking hole he's digging. This whole fucking cockamamy show of Biden's, is a ticking time bomb for everyone. Worse in the sense of insanity, is the left letting this happen, just because they don't have the resolve to admit error or lose political territory ~ Like the last days of Rome, the decay is from the inside going out.

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Biden keeps saying, "at time of war", like someone talking in the active first person sense, rather than the original remote standing _ we will supply aid to a corrupt shithole country, in the name of ( insert excuse) ~ freedom. Now he is ready to use cold war powers, that he may or may not have rights to use in matters of world commerce, in an effort to correct problems, that he was a major contributer in creating. So what's next on his constant inching us into the fucking hole he's digging. This whole fucking cockamamy show of Biden's, is a ticking time bomb for everyone. Worse in the sense of insanity, is the left letting this happen, just because they don't have the resolve to admit error or lose political territory ~ Like the last days of Rome, the decay is from the inside going out.

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Don’t forget, that corrupt shit hole regime was put in place by us
 

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BBC News - Gazprom: Germany accuses Russian gas giant of pushing energy prices up
BBC News - Italy's Eni says Russian gas supply cut by half
 

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China’s Xi says trade with Russia expected to hit new records in the coming months

“Today our cooperation between Russia and China are rising,” Chinese President Xi Jinping said, according to an official English translation carried by Russian state broadcaster RT



Please don't ban me for posting RT content...
 

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China is taking all our Amazon purchase dollars and handing it over to Russia.

It's impossible not to sometimes, but I always make the effort to check product "made in" location and buy from other countries when possible.
USA first, of course. Then India, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc. China last.

On Amazon at least, you can sometimes find that info in the product details section.
Or type "China" into the product questions field and if it's a popular product then inevitably someone has already asked if China made it or not and received an answer that you can read.
 
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