Terry_Schiavo
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They couldnt take mar a lago under FL law. Not knowing whats in his portfolio... maybe his ego couldnt take being demoted from billionaire to millionaire status...lol
They got his taxes
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I don't know- that might be true, but it's also possible he's got loans on the place that could put it in jeopardy. I definitely agree re: the embarrassment of a potential downgrade in rich guy status.
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But he is a ‘ major contributor’ to NPR ...
Terry_Schiavo
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thats when you know shits corrupt!! ADM anyone? Enron? Fucking NPR! now they will even provide a "free" probate attorney for elder patrons so your gift can extend beyond
your life!
jhinderliter
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I listen to them on the commute..
they have been railing on Trumps taxes for 2 days , like he is the only person that pays people to find tax shelters and loopholes ...
they have been railing on Trumps taxes for 2 days , like he is the only person that pays people to find tax shelters and loopholes ...
I don't really care if a rich guy manipulates the tax code to lower or eliminate his tax payments- that kind of thing has been happening forever and didn't start with Trump- notice, though, I didn't take any 'offense' or even mention this in any of my posts (including the one you quoted). I do think it's an issue if the POTUS has huge loans hanging over his head, which could make him susceptible to manipulation by creditors, which is why I believe it's significant if they're non-American. If anyone thinks this is a non-issue, I disagree, because it involves the president, and I think this is a bad situation for him to be in. Bezos (or whomever) doesn't have the same potential impact on the country, as big as he is.
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The Clintons and the Obamas pedal influence world wide ..
Yeah, but, as far as I know, they aren't POTUS and don't owe $421,000,000 in personally guaranteed loans to possibly foreign creditors which they may be too overextended to repay.
If this is nothing, Trump can easily prove it- he's been promising to release his returns for years, and there's no way all of them are still under audit (most audits are completed in a year, even if they're complicated)- time to show them.
If this is nothing, Trump can easily prove it- he's been promising to release his returns for years, and there's no way all of them are still under audit (most audits are completed in a year, even if they're complicated)- time to show them.
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Your Car Is Slow
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indeed...at least 27million illegals all filling out that form so they can send in their 1040s with their income tax payments!
How To File Taxes without a social security number? IRS Form W7
To file a return electronically, the IRS requires a Social Security Number (SSN) or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) for each person(s) listed on your return. If you, your depend...support.taxslayer.com
if anyone is applying for that, they are looking for a refund...not looking to pay.
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In 2018, Netflix, Amazon, and Chevron paid 0 taxes. About 60 companies in total. no biggie, right lefties?
Donald Trump (as well as most of us) paid more in taxes ($750) than Netflix, Amazon, General Motors, IBM, and Chevron COMBINED!!!
Donald Trump (as well as most of us) paid more in taxes ($750) than Netflix, Amazon, General Motors, IBM, and Chevron COMBINED!!!
PoorWhiteTrash
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Lol..
PoorWhiteTrash
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No shit?
Nobody on the left has ever even mentioned the fact.
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How Much Tax Do America's Undocumented Immigrants Actually Pay? [Infographic]
America's undocumented immigrants likely pay much more in taxes annually than Donald Trump.
www.forbes.com
One would think with the headline this is from yesterday, but it's from 2016.
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That's on trump (2018). Wasn't the first order of business tax cuts for the rich?
Your Car Is Slow
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crazy how the number has gone from 27b...to 1b in just two internet searches!
what was that tax cut?
Your Car Is Slow
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every single person rich or poor who paid income/med/ss/payroll/etc taxes got a tax cut...
braindead_organdonor
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Oh yeah it makes claims far far from AD's pov. Estimated BS, and I'm sure trump pays plenty of sales/excise taxes as well.
braindead_organdonor
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The thing is, some illegals use a fake SS#, get withholdings taken, and do not file taxes.
It's hard to put a dollar figure on those too, as they hope to not be discovered.
It's hard to put a dollar figure on those too, as they hope to not be discovered.
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Trickle down economy BS.
President Donald J. Trump Achieved the Biggest Tax Cuts and Reforms in American History | The White House
BIGGEST TAX CUTS AND REFORMS: Because of President Donald J. Trump, Americans will benefit from the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history. Presi
Trickle down economy BS.
President Donald J. Trump Achieved the Biggest Tax Cuts and Reforms in American History | The White House
BIGGEST TAX CUTS AND REFORMS: Because of President Donald J. Trump, Americans will benefit from the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history. Presiwww.whitehouse.gov
where is the tax cut fo the rich?
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Funny you mention tax cuts.
Trump's ability to not pay taxes is in direct relation to the tax code put forward by congress, which had been in Democrat hands many times.
his CPA's used democrat tax code.
How can anyone be mad?
Trump's ability to not pay taxes is in direct relation to the tax code put forward by congress, which had been in Democrat hands many times.
his CPA's used democrat tax code.
How can anyone be mad?
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- President Trump cut the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 21 percent, the largest percentage point reduction of the top marginal rate in history.
- UBS found that 79 percent of the businesses owners surveyed were satisfied with the tax bill and 72 percent believed it would boost the economy.
A rich guy employing smart accountants to manipulate the tax code (accompanied with using what are likely huge financial losses to offset payments) to avoid taxes isn't anything new, and it's not a big deal- it just seems kinda shocking to people making $9 an hour who paid more in income taxes than a billionaire.
Let's do some math.
He donates $400,000/year x 4 years = $1.6 million SAVED
He's spent approximately $100 million dollars on golf outings.
So $1.6 million saved vs. $100 million spent.
Must be that fiscal conservative math at work again.
So there wasn't a tax deal for rich people, but for companies that employ rich people.
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And the rich are taxed at less of a rate according to this article......richer people than most of us apparently.
I'm not sure what's fair as percentages are deceiving. They still pay more in total, and buy more things, and contribute more to local property taxes.
Trump Tax Cuts Helped Billionaires Pay Less Taxes Than The Working Class In 2018
For the first time ever, America’s 400 wealthiest people paid a lower tax rate in 2018 than any other group of people, according to a new study completed by economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman.
www.forbes.com
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Explain to me how that "trickle down bs" led to the largest economic surge and lowest unemployment rates in 50+ years?Trickle down economy BS.
President Donald J. Trump Achieved the Biggest Tax Cuts and Reforms in American History | The White House
BIGGEST TAX CUTS AND REFORMS: Because of President Donald J. Trump, Americans will benefit from the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history. Presi
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They've been shocked since the '70s
Look up ITIN
Yes, but SSN isn't the only way to pay taxes - illegal aliens file for their ITIN, which was created specifically for people who don't have, or are unable to get, an SSN.
The IRS doesn't give a rats ass if you're illegal or not, if you get income, they want a slice of it. They don't even have "illegal alien" distinction - you're either a resident or nonresident and if you've been in the country for 183 days in the last 3 years - guess what! You're a "resident" for tax purposes! Thought the IRS would let the aliens slide? Hell no, pay up sucker!
And if an undocumented worker is using a fake/borrowed/stolen SSN, then they ARE paying taxes.
The $27 billion was for 1 year (2017?) in total taxes (not just income!), but yes - undocumented aliens pay billions into the system every year.
VERIFY: Do undocumented immigrants pay taxes?
According to the IRS, 4.4 million tax returns without social security numbers were filed totaling $23.6 billion in income taxes in 2015.
www.abc10.com
Here's a report from the IRS themselves - this is JUST itin taxes, not including fake/borrowed SSN
SOURCE: https://taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov/Media/Default/Documents/2015ARC/ARC15_Volume1_MSP_18_ITIN.pdf
How the fuck do you get a refund if you haven't paid some tax?
You go from "illegals don't pay taxes" to "they pay taxes - they're just money grubbing fucks trying to score a refund".
Just admit you hate undocumented folks so people can understand your pathological need to refute numbers
This reminds me of the time when you made a false claim about rising COVID cases because you didn't understand rate of positivity and when GoBrian schooled you, you came back with...."Well, you can make the numbers say whatever you want".
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you are mixing income tax and sales tax...which is utterly absurd.
but you already know that.
but you already know that.
I didn't mix jack shit. Illegals pay taxes, in the billions like I said and quoted from the IRS where it showed billions, in income taxes, like I said. The ITIN was a new thing for you too.
Keep flailing around.
More liberal stupidity. As if no other presidents incur costs for their outings. The question remains... what other government liberals give up their pay?
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Obama spent 106 million on personal travel for himself and his family during 8 years.
Trump has equaled that in 4 years.
Unlike trump, Obama didn’t use his own resorts (and insist others do) and charge his staff and the secret service security detail board and lodging, the taxpayer money from those charges going straight into his personal business.
Another example being last year when pence went to Ireland for meetings in Dublin, he flew right across the country to stay at trump’s resort at doonbeg, which was billed to the taxpayer.
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Obama spent 100 million on ONE trip.....the libtard media conveniently always seems to forget...
You Paid $100 Million for Obama's Trip to Africa & You Won't Even Get a Photo
The Obamas' vacation could cost taxpayers in the vicinity of $100 million for hundreds of Secret Service agents, 14 bulletproof limos, and much, much more, but there is more important outrage: We're not even going to get another awesome picture of a president on safari!
hedgehog
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Tell you what, let’s see what that bastion of left wing thought says......actually, let’s go to judicial watch (and who obtained the documents from the secret service under an FOI request), which cannot in any way be considered liberal....Obama spent 100 million on ONE trip.....the libtard media conveniently always seems to forget...
You Paid $100 Million for Obama's Trip to Africa & You Won't Even Get a Photo
The Obamas' vacation could cost taxpayers in the vicinity of $100 million for hundreds of Secret Service agents, 14 bulletproof limos, and much, much more, but there is more important outrage: We're not even going to get another awesome picture of a president on safari!www.theatlantic.com
Judicial Watch: Total Obama Travel Costs So Far, $106 Million - Judicial Watch
Based on a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit gainst the Department of Homeland Security, the government watchdog group Judicial Watch was able to obtain further travel records from the Secret Service, showing trip costs of $3.7 million that, combined with earlier travel records, reveal...
www.judicialwatch.org
That was in 2017.
Compared to the article you linked to which said the trip COULD cost 100 million (and others going back to 2010 that said his trip to Asia COULD cost 200 million), the fact is they didn’t.
That’s the difference between articles speculating and a right wing group getting the actual figures.
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Yawn......the Africa trip is never mentioned because some say it was a diplomatic/business trip.
But again, thanks for being soooo worried about trump.....sux to have someone so inside your head 24/7.
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So let me get this straight.....
You link to an article speculating on the cost of a visit that hadn’t actually concluded at the time the article was published, and I linked to a right wing group who obtained actual government documentation via an FOI request in 2017 for the costs of Obama’s personal travel.
In what world does the former have more validity than the latter, except maybe in trumpistan.
Never mind, you’ll get over it.
You link to an article speculating on the cost of a visit that hadn’t actually concluded at the time the article was published, and I linked to a right wing group who obtained actual government documentation via an FOI request in 2017 for the costs of Obama’s personal travel.
In what world does the former have more validity than the latter, except maybe in trumpistan.
Never mind, you’ll get over it.
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Right...
And I see he is a firm believer in that old Democratic mantra "deficits don't matter". He runs a personal 400million dollar deficit and is doing quite well. Kinda explains why he gives absolutely zero fucks about the balloning federal deficit. And the next time he stands up there talking about how "HE" has rebuilt the military, could someone please remind him that the military is funded by federal taxes. "He" hasn't paid any for years so "HE" hasn't rebuilt shit.
But I do agree with him on the Deficits don't matter thing though.
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again, hes paid exactly to the penny what the law requires him to...just like every other american who pays taxes.
think thats unfair? blame the politicians who have put in those tax codes over the last 30 years. one is even running for president!
think thats unfair? blame the politicians who have put in those tax codes over the last 30 years. one is even running for president!
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I'm speechless at the stu...oh fuck it, it's not worth responding.
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Huh, I wondered how the Green Card carriers paid up...
From the IRS website:
What is an ITIN used for?
IRS issues ITINs to help individuals comply with the U.S. tax laws, and to provide a means to efficiently process and account for tax returns and payments for those not eligible for Social Security numbers. They are issued regardless of immigration status, because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirement under the Internal Revenue Code. ITINs do not serve any purpose other than federal tax reporting.
An ITIN does not:
- Authorize work in the U.S.
- Provide eligibility for Social Security benefits
- Qualify a dependent for Earned Income Tax Credit Purposes
Does the following apply to you?
- You do not have an SSN and are not eligible to obtain one, and
- You have a requirement to furnish a federal tax identification number or file a federal tax return, and
- You are in one of the following categories.
- Nonresident alien who is required to file a U.S. tax return
- U.S. resident alien who is (based on days present in the United States) filing a U.S. tax return
- Dependent or spouse of a U.S. citizen/resident alien
- Dependent or spouse of a nonresident alien visa holder
- Nonresident alien claiming a tax treaty benefit
- Nonresident alien student, professor or researcher filing a U.S. tax return or claiming an exception
Green card holders use an SSN issued to them.
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''How the fuck do you get a refund if you haven't paid some tax? "
Anal really should just stick to......anal.
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Anal really should just stick to......anal.
Illegal aliens don't qualify for the EITC, further proving YCIS' idea that illegals only file taxes to scam the IRS as patently false.''How the fuck do you get a refund if you haven't paid some tax?
Anal really should just stick to......anal.
A for effort though and thanks for the help
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you keep harping on your idea that illegals fill out 1040s by the droves....not really going to matter much in the grand scheme of my day either way!
From that very same report you linked - the law does not require an SSN to receive the child credit. In other words, legal.
AGAIN! Not an example of illegals scamming the system. A for effort though
If it bothers you when people take advantage of legal loopholes in the tax system, write to your Congressman.
...but it didn't bother you when Trump did it