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If that is not a fake/spoof then the apocalypse is officially upon us.
Go enjoy their 'new look' site if you think it's fake

Here, I'll get your juices flowing with a preview...

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Here's the thing. Are VS selling to women or men? Who are they targeting with their advertising?

Well it is women of course. But previously they have sold to women on advertising based on trying to show to women how men wanted them to look (or on how they need to be perceived in the eyes of men) and that was how it was for the last 50 or so years. Advertising to women by men who made the advert and told women how they wanted them to look.

Now there has been a sea change in society and women are making strong moves to have items marketed to them in the way they want to. That is all this is. VS are smart enough to know that if the market their products to appeal to all body shapes than they will corner a bigger share of the market. It is good business. And that initial shot will speak to the many women out there who don't look like a super model and who are perhaps a little self-conscious about their body shape. VS are following the money and at the same time making their range inclusive to all body shapes and why the fuck not? It is a win-win for them. The shouting from men is just a noise made by those men who are upset that the soft porn they jerked off to is no longer available from VS.

VS have just realised that their market is not actually men (apart from Schiavo who wears all their stuff) but women. How long has it taken them to look across their store floors and realise the customers coming through their doors are almost all women and not men buying for women? Well, I reckon they always knew that but are only now commercially brave enough to make that step on how they pitch.

What you are seeing, gentlemen, in that first VS advert, are real body shapes representing the actual people they are selling to rather than the people they would claim actually wear VS and the women that their target market should aspire to be. Nothing more than that. VS are targeting their true market directly rather than selling a BS dream based around how they think women should be perceived (by pervert men).

Which in turn means their is hope for most of the members of this site when the male underwear models are replaced with beer-bellied slobs with flat feet and a bald patch.

And think about it. If you stuck 6 of us in our underpants in front of a camera for underwear advertising we would pretty much look the same (bloke-wise) as the first pic. There would be short, tall, fat, thin, and Fagrid on the far right of shot of course. And who is to say that would be wrong? Yes we would look a sight but we would look like the genuine cross section of body shaped people we all see in our daily life, not a bunch of gym-carved pretty boys who bear no relation to us in look or physique.

And ya know what? The keks we wore and the advert we were in would probably speak more to a much bigger male market than all those pics of oiled up ponces with their groomed beards do.

Yeah, you may laugh when MS. YSR, Wretch, Rhino, luckystrike and Busa Veloce are all standing in front of the camera in their undercrackers but I'm telling you right now, from an advertising point of view that photo will speak far more to your average joe-soap in the street than any oiled up muscle sculpted ponce would...
 

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What a steaming pile of fecal matter ^

go woke go broke is VS a year from now

Why? Because fat middle aged loser men can no longer jerk off over their adverts?

VS have finally woken up to the fact they need to target their real audience directly instead of using adverts deigned by men, for men, who say all women must look a certain way or they are some kind of unlovable failure.

And just because 'woke' rhymes with 'broke' doesn't make what you say a fact. You wouldn't go far in advertising with your 'moon and spoon' bullshit, or your 1950's attitude to women.

If you think that VS haven't spent good bit of coin researching this new tack then you're crazy. This kind of step would have been researched massively before they made such a change to their adverts. If VS are heading this way it is because their target audience responds to it. The biggest pot of gold for them obviously lies this way.

And why do you give a care anyway? How does the way VS advertise affect you so much?

So many fuckers with a fucking bullshit opinion about shit that has nothing to do with them or affects them. You're offended by an advert that shows a cross section of typical women's body sizes and a cross dressing bloke. Get a fucking grip man. Go and watch proper porn if you need to wank off so badly instead of crying over some fucking woman's underwear advert. Or write a letter to VS telling them how wrong they are and how they should be advertising to their target audience...
 

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People need goals to fall short of...

...without them, things will only get uglier...

...and bitchier and it's difficult enough listening to attractive women bitch.


Humanity can only be helped by and asteroid impact now...

...tic, tock!
 

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People need goals to fall short of...

...without them, things will only get uglier...

...and bitchier and it's difficult enough listening to attractive women bitch.


Humanity can only be helped by and asteroid impact now...

...tic, tock!
Every single one of those people in that advert is probably a very decent human being. Why is them featuring in an advert for underwear by a company that is targeting people who have similar body shapes such an issue? So fucking what? If fuckers would live and let live there would be a lot less cunty bullshit in the world.

Humanity doesn't need an asteriod. It just needs less people to act like judgemental cunts...
 

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Humanity doesn't need an asteriod. It just needs less people to act like judgemental cunts...
So, you wish that people would not behave by their nature?

That's like asking dogs not to fuck when a bitch is in heat.

The vast majority do care about themselves.

If you want people to behave better for themselves and humanity, get behind supporting better mental health care...

...and stop supporting/enabling people not living in reality.

Accept yourself as you are and stop trying to mandate/force others to support your fantasy.

Accepting oneself means no matter what anyone else thinks or says, it has no bearing on how you choose to feel.

This going around trying to placate everyone's sense of self, is bullshit.

The Emperor is wearing no clothes.
 

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Just because someone cares about themselves doesn't mean they don't care about others. Stop trying to justify and normalise people acting like cunts. I am behind supporting better mental health care. And your reality is not necessarily theirs so you need to stop forcing your reality on someone else too.

These people in the advert and VS are pretty much saying 'accept people for what they are' instead of mandating a male fantasy of what women should look like. It is people trying to mandate and force others to support a fantasy that has had supermodels promoting VS underwear to the average woman in the street that is the problem.

So they are trying to do what you ask. In doing what they are doing they are trying to find their own sense of self by asking others to accept that it is acceptable to advertise to them using body shapes they have.

You lot are fucking crying on about VS using body shapes from a cross section of American society to advertise their underwear to a cross section of American society.

I can see who is fucked up and it isn't VS. Accept people for who they are, not what you think they should be. So yeah, stop trying to force others to support your fantasy...
 

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Reality is Reality, it's not mine or yours.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone, just merely sharing my take as these twats, that are trying to normalize unhealthy body styles.
People who do not take good care of themselves generally do not care for themselves, in one degree or twenty five.

I dont have to look at them or buy their products so generally, I do not.

Attractive people and objects are nice to look at and sex sells.

Repulsive people and objects, repulse people and sales.

Nobody is crying here, just voicing their preference.

Is that not allowed anymore?

Individual choice?

If not, the asteroid is indeed needed.
 

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Unhealthy body styles have existed for centuries and are the norm in western society. VS aren't trying to normalise something that isn't normal. These people, overweight, underweight, tall, short, 'funny shaped' whatever, are normal. They are an average cross section of female society and VS has every right to use such in their adverts. Go back and look at the advert. How many are overweight? TWO! There are two people over weight.

Two people out of the 6 in that advert could be considered overweight. 33%. I'm betting that is pretty close to the average in the USA. 1 in 3 are likely overweight. So fucking what! The rest in the advert are I would say pretty close to a 'normal' weight for their height. That advert isn't forcing or pushing unhealthy body shapes, it is just showing and average cross section mirroring the main spectrum section of people it sells to.

This advert is exactly about individual choice which is why it has a cross section of people in it. You are calling these people repulsive! What is repulsive about them? They aren't repulsive. They are just people. They would only be repulsive if you are in the habit of objectifying women as sex objects, because you are coming to that conclusion based solely on their looks and because two of them could be deemed to be obese. Fuck, as far as any of us know they could have lost weight and may be continuing to do so. Just because someone is overweight, or too skinny, or short does not mean they can be labelled as 'repulsive'. WTF is wrong with you man? I thought you were all enlightened and shit and accepted people for what they are.

Just because someone is overweight doesn't mean they are repulsive. Paedo Epstein wasn't overweight. You can call him repulsive based on his actions as a human being. John Candy was obese. He was a wonderful human being. Repulsive has nothing to do with weight or shape of these women in the advert. They are not repulsive, they are just normal people...
 

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Kinda funny to see this, Lucky since probably 75% of your BT portfolio is judgemental comments.

Including some rather cunty ones, at that.

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Absolutely but you miss one important point Ed. I am self-cunty above all else and I realise that I can't rip the piss out of others unless I am prepared to have it done to me and I am probably one of the most self-deprecating people in this place. If I wasn't I wouldn't still be here, the amount of shit I take off you lot, who wouldn't know self deprecating humour if it ran you over in the street. Except it's self deprecating, so it would run me over instead... :fu:
 

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It's not just the overweight that have unhealthy body styles...

...some show unhealthy minds as well.

If you can't see them well, that is on you.
 

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You're not a bad person Mr Lucky, you just have some unhealthy things running about in your head...

...just like most of us here.

Nowhere near the amount of those pictured in the OP though.
 

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It's not just the overweight that have unhealthy body styles...

...some show unhealthy minds as well.

If you can't see them well, that is on you.
What constitutes and unhealthy mind? If someone has an eating disorder does that make them a bad person?
 

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What constitutes and unhealthy mind? If someone has an eating disorder does that make them a bad person?
I never said it made anyone bad, it just tends to have them making bad choices for them and usually the people around them.

Unhealthy thoughts tend to be self-sabotaging and destructive too.
 

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What constitutes and unhealthy mind? If someone has an eating disorder does that make them a bad person?
...there is some coloration TBPH...

...in addition to what Wretch said...
 
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Absolutely but you miss one important point Ed. I am self-cunty above all else and I realise that I can't rip the piss out of others unless I am prepared to have it done to me and I am probably one of the most self-deprecating people in this place.
I didn't 'miss' it... that's the other 25% :lol:

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Those VS ‘women’ are promoting poor health

granted beauty is in the eye of the beholder

poor health is not, that’s science
No they are not promoting poor health. They are promoting underwear that fits all body shapes. They are using two people out of the six on the advert to show they also make underwear for people who are overweight. Seeing as that is 33% of American women then that is a pretty decent market to promote to. They are also showing that they make underwear to fit short women, tall women, women with small breasts and women with cocks. Poor health and diet is not the fault of VS. McDonalds promotes poor health. Coca Cola promotes poor health. Krispy Kremes promotes poor health.

All VS are doing is saying 'Hey, American Women! We got you! Even the ones who don't look like catwalk supermodels, we got you covered' is all...
 

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All VS are doing is saying 'Hey, American Women! We got you! Even the ones who don't look like catwalk supermodels, we got you covered' is all...
Saying that, in text, would have been better than assaulting the vast majority of ocular orbs on the planet with an image as they did.
 

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Yeah, I'm thinking masturbation could be an option.

I'm betting that most do not think of morbidly obese partners while doing so.

I wonder why there aren't that many huge prostitutes, hmmm...
There certainly are. As a psyc minor I had a displeasure of observing a day in Chicago's vice court. 90% of cases I witnessed were soliciting. Most, if not all, resembled the fourth girl from the left, but much worse.
 
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