*PING* Simon! HELP!!!

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Short story:
I've been using Temazepam for years. Can't sleep without the shit. It's a very controlled medication.
My sleep doctor retired. I get switched to a new doctor.

New doctor tells me he wants me to take a drug test, and gives me an order for lab work. I'm not worried about it... I'm not on any illegal drugs. Nothing to hide. I take a Temazepam about 8:00 p.m. every night.

I finally get around to taking the drug test one day, about 4:00 in the afternoon. A week later I get a letter in the mail terminating my physician/patient relationship. I call and ask them what the fuck. Here's where it gets weird.

They tell me I passed the drug test. They didn't find any drugs in my system. Which means I failed, because there should have been some Temazepam detected. But since there wasn't any, that means I'm not taking the medication, and must be selling it or giving it to someone else.

So I argue with the office manager. I asked if it should still be in my system the next day at 4:00 in the afternoon. She says yes. I point out that it was a routine drug screening, not spelled out what they are looking for. I assume it's looking for pot, coke, heroin, all the usual suspects, but not necessarily trace amounts of a prescribed medication.

She says she will have the doctor call me. Do you have any thoughts on this, so far?
TIA!
 
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WHAT THE HELL??!! Yeah, you do seem to be a shady, drug dealer type. Never mind your kind demeanor, proper grammar and profession. Good fucking grief, this is ridiculous! Drama follows you around by the trainload...why you?
 
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WHAT THE HELL??!! Yeah, you do seem to be a shady, drug dealer type. Never mind your kind demeanor, proper grammar and profession. Good fucking grief, this is ridiculous! Drama follows you around by the trainload...why you?
I don't know, man. I don't think there's *THAT* much drama in my life. But definitely some bullshit lately!
 
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Damn VC... I hope this gets squared away quickly.

They can't make mistakes and You are guilty until proven innocent... :roll:

RAGE VENT ON~

first the Doc's write scrips for oxy like they were m&m's... get a shitload of the population hooked on nice clean dope... then tighten the spigots and send these poor junkies out to the streets to cop some garbage smack that barely works or some fentynal shit that could kill your block... or what ever Russian Rulette crap they score as they try to stay right.

If it is ever proven that it was done by design... i pray the puppet masters pay dearly just to get a taste of the horror and pain they have caused.


RAGE VENT OFF ~


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Thanks Vinny. I'm taking the right amount of the right shit right now to get a good night's sleep, and would prefer to not make a change. It took a long time to get things just so.

Plus, now I feel like I need to clear my name before the unintended consequences of my doctor's incorrect analysis come back to haunt me, in the form of God only knows what.
 
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Jesus Fucking Christ, it just keeps getting stupider! I called his office back to find out why he hasn't called me, and spent 5 minutes arguing with possibly the dumbest human being I've ever spoken with. Obviously a black woman, obviously 70-ish IQ (giving her the benefit of the doubt). She told me that he noted in my file today that they are willing to mail their substance abuse policy to me. I told her I'm not the least bit interested in their substance abuse policy.

That whole conversation was a non-starter. So fuckit, I wrapped up with her, and decided to pay for my own drug test out of pocket. A lab can test my fucking hair and they should be able to tell that I've been taking my prescription drugs as prescribed, and no illegal drugs, for however long my fucking hair is, which isn't very.

I spent 10 minutes on the phone with LabCorp. They WILL NOT do a drug test for me without a written doctor's request. I offered to pay cash, up front. Didn't matter. So I asked if she would do a drug test on my hair if I had a doctor's request. She said she can test my hair, but it can only come from the crown of my head, and it must be at least 2 inches long. If there's a 2-inch long hair on me, anywhere, it's someone else's hair. So that's not gonna work.

I'm losing my goddamn mind. How a doctor can take a simple situation and completely fuck it up like this is beyond my comprehension. And he won't own it, won't speak to me, won't make it right. I'm better off dealing with a competent doctor and getting this cocksucker out of my life completely, but considering I have no control over where my fucking medical records go (thanks Obama!!), I feel compelled to get the record straight.
 
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You seem pretty stressed for a guy on Temazepam...

I know the dealers' credo is 'Don't get high on your own supply', but maybe you should dip into it a little.:p
 
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You seem pretty stressed for a guy on Temazepam...

I know the dealers' credo is 'Don't get high on your own supply', but maybe you should dip into it a little.:p
You're a funny guy! :roll::fu:

But yeah, I AM pretty stressed for a guy on Temazepam.
You wouldn't want to deal with me when I'm not.
Wound tight.
 
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Your doctor doesn't want to deal with you.

Or your doctor got bit by the long arm of the DEA and doesn't, consequently, want to deal with you as part of their physician/drug requirements in prescribing controlled medications (of which temazepam is).

Either way VC, it sounds like your doctor is not fulfilling his end of the physician/patient deal and I would recommend taking a printout of your medication records (obtained at your pharmacy) to another doctor that would be more eager for your business.
 
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I'm better off dealing with a competent doctor and getting this cocksucker out of my life completely, but considering I have no control over where my fucking medical records go (thanks Obama!!), I feel compelled to get the record straight.
You can thank Clinton for this. :)
 
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Thanks Simon (and AD).
I gave you the semi-abbreviated story, but the truth is, I've seen this asshole for at least 2 or 3 office visits now. So he's late on flushing me. On the first visit, I suggested to the office manager that she listens with her fucking mouth instead of her ears. So that may be a factor.

I just told my wife 10 minutes before reading your reply... I intend to be at his office tomorrow morning, so I can get a copy of the results. I work in an engineering discipline. I want the fucking numbers. Show me the min and max acceptable numbers, and what my fucking number is. I'm pretty sure they don't have any numbers. Like you said, they just want to get rid of my ass. Whether they do or they don't, they obviously didn't test for the right shit.

I'm in Ohio (no, they don't pay me to live here; I just do it because I'm stubborn).
 
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It would be a lot easier to get some weed.
Absolutely guaranteed gospel truth right there.

If I didn't work in a safety-sensitive position overseen by every three-letter federal government department you can think of, subject to unannounced, frequent piss tests, I'd probably just go that route and save everyone a lot of grief.

I've never been much of weed smoker, though. The premium shit makes me dizzy / vomit.
 
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Couple things

first off, one visit does not a doctor patient relationship make. 2 does, so he flushed you now after 1 visit when it’s easy.

Anal had it right. The doc just doesn’t wanna fuck with it. It’s gotten progressively more and more bullshit fucking nonsense to deal with controlled substances. most docs in California send pain chronic pain patients to chronic pain docs for this exact reason. We’re under such high scrutiny it’s just not worth it. Which is exactly what these cocksuckers wanted- for doctors to not prescribe medications. The problem is when it’s absolutely indicated it makes it very difficult for people who are on chronic pain or sleep medications to get them. they get treated like criminals and a lot of people don’t realize that the FDA has informed narcotic manufacturers to trim back production. Over the last two years production has been rolled back at least 40% and they were told to roll it back another 30% this year. That means shortages; that means people who are on chronic narcotics are going through with drawl and it’s really fucked up.

It’s entirely possible that your doctor checked the wrong box and didn’t test for the appropriate drug. You’re right it’s a little different this time- they are testing to see if the drug is in your system and if so that means that you are using it and not diverting it -presumably.

I’ve seen many times doctors checked the box for hydrocodone when the patient was actually getting oxycodone and surprise surprise when it shows up negative there’s a problem. Also TemazePam is a bit of an atypical benzodiazepines and it often doesn’t show up in Taess for generic benzodiazepines.

bottom line your doctor is a complete fuckhead. What I would do is number one get the test results make sure he checked the correct box and if it’s for generic benzodiazepines there’s a good chance that temazepam won’t show up on the test. Your next step is to contact the medical board I think you live in California I don’t remember and I can help you draft the letter .

You would not believe the horseshit I have and will again go through when a refill is needed...
...okay, maybe you would.
Anyway, I make use of any narcotic only when it's an absolutely positively got to be done task.
Then embrace the suck from the hangover and withdrawal in the days following.

Take a certain med for 15+ fucking years and suddenly they decide I shouldn't be on it and cancel the prescription...
...without telling me so I could maybe work on weening myself off over a couple of weeks.

I was ready to hurt people when they decided just as suddenly to reinstate the prescription.

That was a shitty week there.

Anyway, maybe it a new form of entertainment to fuck with people just to see how they'll react only they don't broadcast in the area of the torture patient?

Hope you get this shit sorted Vicious, nothing more aggravating than having your meds fucked with.
 
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You would not believe the horseshit I have and will again go through when a refill is needed...
...okay, maybe you would.
I would. The Rx is for one per day. The insurance company's randomly chosen maximum is something like 200(?) per year. That math doesn't work, so I spend about 3 full workdays, once a year on the phone, speaking with people whose sole qualifications for their jobs are their skin color and birth sex... attempting to get all the fuckheads to agree on some sort of override to the insurance company's randomly chosen maximum annual qty.

Hope you get this shit sorted Vicious, nothing more aggravating than having your meds fucked with.

Thanks Bro :up: I don't ask for much. A little sleep each day.
 
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Have you tried CBD oil?
Should help with sleep and it's 100% legal, if you buy real stuff with no THC in it.
Thanks Yury (now Hapo has me wondering if I spelled your name correctly).
I'm not sure I ever heard of the stuff, but I just looked it up. The first article I found says it has been illegal in Ohio for almost 2 months. So it's probably not a good solution for my sleep problems.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/cbd...ally-now-illegal-ohio/gH1ab0bhv1xVi9LaiLaAMJ/
 
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The half-life elimination varies quite a bit with Temazepam, from 3.5-18.4 hours. If your test was 20 hours later, and the drug (in your body) was eliminated on the quick side, you could be over 5 half-lives and the concentrations could be nearly untraceable amounts. I have no idea what they were looking for nor the sensitivity of their tests.
 
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I read at night during the winter. I work hard enough, and long enough during the long summer days for exhaustion to make me sleep, but having a good history book on the night stand helps this time of the year.
 
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I had to quit using hydrocodone because it was getting to be rather nuts to jump the hoops. I just live with the pain. I'm sorry you're going through this.
 
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I have just the opposite problem, if I sit on the couch or in a recliner, I'm out light a light in fifteen minutes. I could sleep ten hours a day if I didn't have shit to do.
 
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I wish I could sleep a full 8 hours every night. I cat nap a few times every day...
 
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or smack - plenty of that around.
...I pointed this out to a doctor to get pain meds for tinhead once...

...you should have seen the look on his face when I said no big deal, we don't need a prescription for heroin...
 
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Thanks everybody!

I just got off the phone with the doctor. I laid into him pretty good, and told him I am on my way to his office so I can see the test results, including the minimum and maximum acceptable limits, and where my number fell in (or out of) the range. He told me it was just a standard drug screening and he doesn't have those numbers. I pointed out that he's making bogus decisions based on bogus test results.

The short story is that he agreed to NOT terminate the physician/patient relationship "as long as we can have a positive relationship", and as long as I take my random drug screenings immediately instead of waiting for weeks like I did this time. I agreed to take those tests in a timely fashion.

So I'm his patient again. I'm not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing, but for now, crisis averted. :-?
 
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...good...get it sorted and bail...
 
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Thanks Yury (now Hapo has me wondering if I spelled your name correctly).
I'm not sure I ever heard of the stuff, but I just looked it up. The first article I found says it has been illegal in Ohio for almost 2 months. So it's probably not a good solution for my sleep problems.

https://www.whio.com/news/local/cbd...ally-now-illegal-ohio/gH1ab0bhv1xVi9LaiLaAMJ/

With zero THC, all you have to do is drive to Indiana.
It will never show up on any drugs tests, since there is nothing illegal in it.
 
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This afternoon, my postal carrier stuck a notice on the sidelight next to my front door (which apparently was easier than just ringing the doorbell). I was sitting 15 feet from the front door, but she was stealth and didn't make a fucking sound. I just happened to notice the sticker on the window, so I grabbed it, and it says I have certified mail from the County Sheriff!!

Mentally, I'm connecting the dots, thinking this cock sucking sleep doctor must have notified the Sheriff that I'm peddling my sleep meds. The notice says I can come in to the post office and sign for this mail on 11/23. As if I want to sit here through Thanksgiving wondering what the fuck I'm in trouble for now?!?! Asshole postal carrier, can't do her fucking job. Lots of that going around lately. :screama:

So, anyway, I drove over to the post office and signed for this piece of mail that I was dreading even opening. Turns out, it has nothing to do with Doctor Asshole. It's a summons to be on the grand jury. You fucks would be well advised to steer clear of these parts, while I'm on the grand jury!! :fu::cool::fu:
 
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"Side effects of CBD include sleepiness, decreased appetite, diarrhea, fatigue, malaise, weakness, sleeping problems, and others. It does not have intoxicating effects like those caused by THC, and may have an opposing effect on disordered thinking and anxiety produced by THC."
Sounds like the tap water in Houston! I think I will hold off on trying that stuff, until/unless things get much worse around here.

Thanks though, Yury- I appreciate the suggestion. Hopefully I won't need it, though.
 
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Have you tried killing the monkey? I don't mean that in an antagonistic manner, if you were to kill the monkey you'd forever released from this anxiety.
 
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Good grief, everyone around you is jacking with your buzz. That's fucked up. I'm envisioning VC playing the part of Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"....it's best just to leave the fucking guy alone....geez...
 
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I'm envisioning VC playing the part of Michael Douglas in "Falling Down"....it's best just to leave the fucking guy alone....geez...
It's hilarious that you mention this. When that movie first came out, an ex-girlfriend (she already was an ex at the time) called me all excited because they made a movie about me. She said, "He even LOOKS just like you!!". :earoff:

I think I tried to watch that movie once, but it got off to such a slow start, I fell asleep before anything interesting happened.
 
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You might want to watch it, or not. Basically a decent, hard working dude. But everyone just keeps fucking with him...he finally pops. Kinda heavy, but relatable! Dial it up on dish or inet...
 
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The short story is that he agreed to NOT terminate the physician/patient relationship "as long as we can have a positive relationship", and as long as I take my random drug screenings immediately instead of waiting for weeks like I did this time. I agreed to take those tests in a timely fashion.
The delay might have been an issue too. If one of my driver's name's came up for the random drug test through the people I have that track such things, and he took two weeks to take the test, I'd fire him. Maybe they figured you were dragging your feet because that pee was riding dirty.
 
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Just to steal VC's thunder, Page TWO bitch!! :fu::fu:


When reporting for jury duty, you'll quickly be set free if the case involves drugs in any way. Your rampant disdain of teenagers selling addictive drugs and the fact that you, too, have been suspected of inappropriate dealing of such drugs....you're truly unfit to serve on any jury, really! :fu::fu::fu::):):)
 
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The delay might have been an issue too. If one of my driver's name's came up for the random drug test through the people I have that track such things, and he took two weeks to take the test, I'd fire him. Maybe they figured you were dragging your feet because that pee was riding dirty.
Understood. I questioned his reasoning for requesting the piss test in the first place. I've never heard of someone with sleep problems being required to take a piss test in order to continue receiving the same treatment he has been receiving for years, especially since no test was ever required previously.

He said it's just to cover his ass, in case he ever was audited- he would need to show that he's done his due diligence. So my take was that he needs a piece of paper to stick in a folder, that likely never would be looked at again. I didn't get any sense of urgency from him, so I went to the lab at my convenience.

Billetman, thanks for the words of encouragement! :fu::asshole:
 
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