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Very underwhelming IMHO

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Surely that can't be their 23 car? Its front wing work doesn't hold a candle to the design of Alfa Romeo's wing. It looks like a kids effort compared to what we see from the Alfa camp. Maybe last years car with new livery then?

I hope so for HAAS's sake...
 

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Surely that can't be their 23 car? Its front wing work doesn't hold a candle to the design of Alfa Romeo's wing. It looks like a kids effort compared to what we see from the Alfa camp. Maybe last years car with new livery then?

I hope so for HAAS's sake...
The Alpha Romeo looks good to my untrained eye, I'm hoping they have decent success with the 2023 car
 

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Surely that can't be their 23 car? Its front wing work doesn't hold a candle to the design of Alfa Romeo's wing. It looks like a kids effort compared to what we see from the Alfa camp. Maybe last years car with new livery then?

I hope so for HAAS's sake...
That's the pic HAAS posted to their twitter account announcing their '23 car
 

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It cannot be their 23 car. It looks like something a child has designed compares to the rolling carbon airflowed artwork that is the Alfa. It looks like a fukken brick...
Not gonna lie, but those were my thoughts too when I first saw it

Doubt there is much time left to change anything at this point
 
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Yup, happier now. It doesn't look like that pig W13.128446

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Thank fuck. Shakedown tests at Silverstone this afternoon...
 
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Merc looks like a boat anchor

I really don't care for any of these cars

There hasn't been a good looking F1 car since team Marlboro McLaren Honda
Irrelevant. We are discussing the release of the 2023 cars and the W14 looks like a huge improvement over last year's monstrosity.

I think this new season will see many more teams in the mix for a great share of the points. I am hoping 2023 is a great leveller and the top teams are all close...
 
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So what the fuck is going on here? I thought outwash from the front wing was banned? Mercedes certainly got their outwash front wing stopped before it hit a race last year. And what is with that nuclear sub back deck? Cooling or more sneaky aero?

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Yes it seems to have a very pronounced 'V' shape compared to other teams 23 offerings. Unless it is just the angle of the shot.

Running issues at Silverstone already with misfires. Apparently they had mounted the engine 'wrong'. How the fuck do you do that?

They fixed it though and have been very cagey about handling so what is the betting they still have issues spilling over from W13...
 

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One thing is for sure... if the car is the least bit temperamental then Sluice will be able to do fuck all about it apart from spreading the labia of their sandy vagina and letting the tears pour forth.

That queer is the Casey Stoner of four-wheel racing. Except Stoner's wife was a cutie patootie.
 
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Well he didn't do too bad at all and it looks like Aston are starting out as the top midfield team and could well take it to the top 3. As expected Verstappen made the top spot with Checo second. Leclerc 3rd and Sainz 4th. Alonso an impressive 5th and Russell 6th. Lewis 7th. Both Merc drivers surprised they made final quali top 10. Stroll 8th and Ocon 9th. Hulkenberg 10th.

All 20 race cars were separated by just 1.3 seconds. That is crazy!

This qualifying is a very good sign for the season...
 
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Something I noticed. How low the Astons run. They are almost stuck to the deck compared to the Red Bull. Mercedes tried that last year and all it got them was damaged floors and bruised spines.
Toto Wolf has gone on record stating that Mercedes will most likely drop the zero side pod design if they can't generate the downforce they were hoping for.

As expected RB, fast out the gate despite the limited wind tunnel time. Not surprising considering how good their car was last year and how much ahead of the rest it was.

Ferrari cars look bloody sexy on track and that new lower wider rear wing suits the look of all the cars...
 
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Happy to see Sargeant qualify ahead of the other rookies in what is surely an inferior car
Yes America needs an F1 driver and F1 are desperate for a successful one. If he is as good as I hope he is he will no doubt drive viewing figures States side through the roof...
 

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Wait until the late season Las Vegas round to see just how little AmeRicans care about
race car driving.

A Kardashian infested star fuk zoo with billionaire sideshow and a few cars strewn about.
 

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I'm getting tired of Toto & Merc management apologizing for how shit the Merc is and the media giving free passes to Obamilton & Russell

Everybody always talking about the car and not about the drivers for the team results
 

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Aston Martin gets parts (and power units) from Mercedes. Alonso drove it to beat Russell and Hamilton.
Good callout

Although Merc is fingering lack of downforce as their main problem which is the one part they're not sharing with AM

But still, Toto, Hamilton and Russell should STFU and drive

Both drivers were outclassed by a pensioner so it can't be all just down to their cars
 
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I loved the first race. More mixed up than it has been for a good few years. Shame RB were so strong out the box and Leclerc's Ferrari let him down.

As regards Mercedes and Aston Martin it absolutely is about the car. Aston car is sorted and is an evolution from their ever improving platform last year as well as benefitting from their new factory facilities.
Mercedes on the other hand, are developing from what was generally recognised as being the worst car on the grid. Both drivers and their manager fully expected it not to make the top 10 in quali or race and it has an identified issue with downforce in high speed corners.

That they scored 5th and 7th was a pleasant surprise but it still isn't enough to change Wolf's mind about the car and they are, after the results of this weekend, binning 16 months of zero side pod concept R&D and going back to a more conventional design.

If that isn't 'about the car' then I don't know what is.

It's fine to have a favourite driver/team but to badmouth two drivers and a team because you have an unreasoned hatred of one of the drivers is not conducive to a proper and reasoned discussion about the sport. It basically just makes you look like a hate filled arsehole.

And let's talk about Alonso. No one can argue that Vettel wouldn't have achieved the same result. Alonso has, thankfully, fallen on his feet and if it continues to go well he will stay happy. But as soon as the team slips or his team mate becomes a threat to his position in the race standings he will start division and unrest in the garage. He always does.

For now it's all good. We got a great first race and it has made the leader board already interesting.

I hope it stays as mixed up throughout the season but I am interested to see what Mercedes does with its car, especially after hemorrhaging staff to RB and Aston Martin over the break period...
 
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Wasn't that long ago everyone here said "it's the car, not the driver" and you said, in between slurps of trans-sexual Grenada cock, "it's the driver! the driver makes any car great! Lewis' cock fits my arse like a kid glove!"

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No I did not. However I have always recognised it has to be a combination of both but a great driver can flatter a bad car. None of these drivers are 'bad'. The have made it to the pinnacle of motorsport and no team is going to invest their and their sponsor money into a driver they don't think will bring them some benefit. Even the pay to play drivers, who may look weak compared to the front running talent, have to have some ability well above and beyond the norm to operate these cars in competition. This isn't Nascar where the winner is the fattest redneck who is quickest at eating pies and fucking his own mother. These drivers are physical athletes who have to have fighter pilot levels of reaction and the highest operational skills under intense physical and mental pressure.

So you just go back to fist-milking your forehead gonad and leave the clever talky stuff to the big boys...
 
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Well, Lewith didn't win ...
As for Alonso it'll be hard to create division when Daddy owns the team - let's see how that plays out. I wish Seb had stayed for another year to fly around in the Aston ...
 

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Well, Lewith didn't win ...
As for Alonso it'll be hard to create division when Daddy owns the team - let's see how that plays out. I wish Seb had stayed for another year to fly around in the Aston ...
Glad he's gone after his Montreal GP debacle wearing a shirt protesting Canadian oil sands...all the while sponsored by Saudi Aramco, jetting around the world in a carbon spewing jet and earning fortunes from a job that spews even more carbon

Another elite preaching 'do as I say, not as I do'

Fuck him

Hey Seb, you feel bad about climate change? Then forfeit all your career earnings and trophies. Your hippie hairdo ain't fooling me :fu:
 

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I was a bit disappointed to see the Red Bulls so much faster than the rest of the field. I like watching a race for the lead, not for 4th.

It is amazing to me that Mercedes has produced a car that is that far off the pace after having dominated for so long. I know Red Bull has a great aerodynamicist (and the new rules package seems to lean towards aero as opposed to engine performance), but you would have thought that Mercedes had a team that could build a car that would be a little closer to the front. As a Mercedes fan it's a bummer.

As a fan of the sport I wish things were closer at the front. Some of that might be because I'm not a big fan of Max's (even though I'm of Dutch heritage), I just can't stand his personality and can't help but root against him.
 

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I was a bit disappointed to see the Red Bulls so much faster than the rest of the field. I like watching a race for the lead, not for 4th.

It is amazing to me that Mercedes has produced a car that is that far off the pace after having dominated for so long. I know Red Bull has a great aerodynamicist (and the new rules package seems to lean towards aero as opposed to engine performance), but you would have thought that Mercedes had a team that could build a car that would be a little closer to the front. As a Mercedes fan it's a bummer.

As a fan of the sport I wish things were closer at the front. Some of that might be because I'm not a big fan of Max's (even though I'm of Dutch heritage), I just can't stand his personality and can't help but root against him.
Spot on
 

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I was a bit disappointed to see the Red Bulls so much faster than the rest of the field. I like watching a race for the lead, not for 4th.

It is amazing to me that Mercedes has produced a car that is that far off the pace after having dominated for so long. I know Red Bull has a great aerodynamicist (and the new rules package seems to lean towards aero as opposed to engine performance), but you would have thought that Mercedes had a team that could build a car that would be a little closer to the front. As a Mercedes fan it's a bummer.

As a fan of the sport I wish things were closer at the front. Some of that might be because I'm not a big fan of Max's (even though I'm of Dutch heritage), I just can't stand his personality and can't help but root against him.
Funny thing is, ever since Drive to Survive, in a way I've become more interested in the mid-pack rivalries than the front runners

It's a testament to how good that show is because I can't say I've ever felt the same about any series before

And damn straight, Max is difficult to like
 
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