Multi Vitamin supplements?

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What are ya'll old fuckers taking every day?

I've been slowly, very slowly adding better foods to my diet.
One of my favorite snacks is sliced tomato's plus italian dressing.
Tomato's are one of the "super foods". So I guess that's cool.
Btw, what do you like on your tomato slices? I'm still generic with the italian dressing.

But back to the topic.
I want to add vitamins to my daily regimen.
Not currently taking anything at all.
Flinstones vitamins were semi-tasty back in the day.
A little chalky but not bad at all.
 
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Also kind of interested in "brain food" vitamins.
To help with all the zillions of brain cells I've killed off over the years.
And help with memory loss.
 
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It doesn't matter.

Grab whatever men's vitamin is on sale. Go see a doc and get some lab work done to make sure you're not deficient in anything particular. If you're on meds, this would be a good time to ask about "brain" supplements so they don't have an interaction, e.g. ginkgo can interact with certain blood thinners (small chance). Actually, a pharmacist might be better able to answer that.

I like cracked pepper on tomato. Or with slices of mozzarella and vinaigrette, caprese salad. Or on toastes bread with mayo - it makes for a decent sandwich.
 
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contrary to what AD says there is a huge difference, get whole food vitamins whatever brand you choose, real food is utilized, not just chemical compounds, your body knows the difference.
Huge difference? What's your evidence?

The only big difference I'm aware of is getting your vitamins from your diet rather than from a supplement - getting vitamin C from an orange has a multitude of other nutrients and components that provide health benefits - things that are not going to be present in any vitamin, whole food or synthetic.

If the price of whole food and regular vitamins were the same, I'd say go for it. But it's ridiculously priced - 8 cents a day vs. $1. Meanwhile, people are still out there eating shitty food, boozing and smoking. Changing your diet is going to make a way bigger impact than a lifetime supply of whole foods vitamins.

Here's a study showing bioavailability of synthetic vs. natural Vitamin C - no difference. However, eating the fruit it comes in is far more beneficial for the reason stated above.

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/5/9/3684/pdf

Anyway, the proof is in the pudding. Your blood results are not going to show one iota of difference between synthetic vs. whole food vitamins. As long as it's within reference ranges, you're good to go.
 
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you're right, a vitamin isn't going to fix stupid, but one derived from real food is more beneficial, I'd say you're just throwing money away with regular ones for the most part, there are a few exceptions but not many, getting your nutrients from real food is by far the best way, but you have to overcome the stupid part .. like believing synthetics are the same.
 
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I use Kirkland brand multivitamin, d3 supplement, ginger root and magnesium. When tested, my d goes low in the winter time.
 
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I had some Kirkland brand coffee once.
Several times, actually. My neighbor brought me a can of it back from one of his work trips.
Always though "Kirkland" was a made up TV brand of 'ish.
It was good coffee.
 
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Was Kirkland from that TV show Home Improvement??
 
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you're right, a vitamin isn't going to fix stupid, but one derived from real food is more beneficial, I'd say you're just throwing money away with regular ones for the most part, there are a few exceptions but not many, getting your nutrients from real food is by far the best way, but you have to overcome the stupid part .. like believing synthetics are the same.
You know what's stupid?

Taking your advice as the truth when you have nada to back it up.

Maybe down in Texas, if you repeat something enough, it comes true. :biggrin1a:

I'd say you're just throwing money away with regular ones for the most part
Yikes.

Guess the ones prescribed in the hospital do absolutely nothing :roll:
 
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AD is spot on, bowtie is blowing smoke up your ass.

And "Kirkland" is the Costco store brand, named after the city of Kirkland, Washington where Costco's first store was opened in 1983.
 
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the body knows when a vitamin or mineral comes in food or pill form?

how does my stomach acid differentiate between a lemon and a vitamin c pill?

this is genuinely news to me and id like an answer!
 
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there ya go ... ok rumble, ya fat fuck, obviously you're privy about nutrition.
I can tell you didn't read your own articles.

1st link, supports my point - dietary nutrients and vitamins are far more important than whole food/synthetic vitamins. It also say, 1) you can overdose on vitamins, specifically fat soluble ones. 2) Certain populations should take supplements. 3) If you already have sufficient nutrients, multivitamins aren't going to do jack shit for you.

It says absolutely nothing about whole food vitamins, so I'm not sure why you linked it.

2nd link doesn't say much either. It links a study that shows Vitamin E in its natural form is better absorbed than it's synthetic form, but it's important to note that Vitamin "E" is one of 8 different compounds, depending on it's source. It's like saying all gasoline is the same, from 87 to 93 to race gas to E85.

Office of Dietary Supplements - Vitamin E

Not only that, every vitamin differs in what type of Vitamin E it offers and the quantity - yes, even the ones labeled "100% natural".

Vitamin E Supplement Reviews & Information

3rd link, at the very bottom. It says right at the very bottom:


Conclusion: A Need for More Studies

With all of the health benefits of eating whole foods, it intuitively feels as though supplements made from whole foods would have greater benefits than synthetic versions. There is limited evidence proving this theory, however.
 
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the body knows when a vitamin or mineral comes in food or pill form?

how does my stomach acid differentiate between a lemon and a vitamin c pill?

this is genuinely news to me and id like an answer!
Short answer: There's no difference.

Long answer: There is a difference, but it's pretty pointless, that it's academic circle jerking at this point. It's like saying that our bodies are comprised of 99% empty space due to the difference between the electron field surrounding the atom. True from the physics standpoint at the atomic level, but absolutely irrelevant at any practical level. The real benefit to eating vitamins from a natural source is that you get all the other macro/micronutrients that come with fruits and vegetables - that not only aid in the absorption of said vitamins, but provide benefits and protective factors all on their own. If you really get down to it, there are some differences between the chemical structures of various vitamins found in nature vs. synthetically made, like Vitamin E mentioned above, that have different levels of activity within the body. But as long as you're getting enough of the Vitamin E, that's the important part at the end of the day.

The natural form is more potent. For example, 100 IU of natural vitamin E is equal to about 150 IU of the synthetic form.

Some vitamin E supplements provide other forms of the vitamin, such as gamma-tocopherol, tocotrienols, and mixed tocopherols. Scientists do not know if any of these forms are superior to alpha-tocopherol in supplements.
Long answer, made short: There's no difference.

As for your Vitamin C question - "...all steady state comparative bioavailability studies in humans have shown no differences between synthetic and natural vitamin C, regardless of the subject population, study design or intervention used." Here is the study, this came from bowtie's 3rd link.

Stop eating shit, booze in moderation, stop smoking, take a vitamin. You'll be 10 steps ahead of yourself.
 
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If you're gonna go out of your way to correct me, make sure you got your shit screwed on right.

You didn't, so I let you know.

It's your opinion, that doesn't make it fact.
When it's based on clinical data, yes, it is fact. That's how science works.
 
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Geez... bunch of bickering in a thread that had a little health tip sharing potential.

Me? Centrum Specialist Energy. Seems to work well. I have energy.
 
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...multivitamins are bad, mmmK…???...
 
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ok, anal, here you go ... you were correct, I was lazy and just skimmed the articles I linked .. they were the top 3, anyway, I believe this one conveys more accurately the point that I did not ..

and another point is these things were at one time common sense, now with multi billion dollar companies running the world propaganda is king, it is my mistaken viewpoint that most intelligent people see through it, but now we digress ..

natural is always better for your body
 
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