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Vague non-answer. It's not about simply Americans upholding the constitution regardless if their color - it's about whites being out numbered by the browns.
I don't have an answer. ...and it's not about 'brown' at all. (well maybe for the walmart shooter it was, but thats not what I'm talking about)

It's about massive foreign migration from ONE part of the world and with that, the inherent ideas that have been ingrained into them from generations past. The fact that you would bring up the 'brown' factor is exactly my point. Upholding the Constitution is the only part of this that makes sense. But, if you decide to change the Constitution by outnumbering my social structures via birth rate from socialist only areas to better align with YOUR ideals of what American SHOULD be, then what?
 
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AD - You make the assumption that coming here, people WANT to be in line with the Constitution. That's the same ideology that got us into 18 years of war -- "people want democracy" Suuure they do, Cept the ones that don't.

You've said yourself that you want 'common sense' gun laws like the rest of the democrats 'portray'. And yet the the Constitution says 'shall not be infringed". The Constitutional laws are on the books to stop illegal immigration and now we have sanctuary cities bypassing the laws of the nation for the will of the people.

50 years ago this wouldn't even be up for debate. == Hedgehog asked it --- What's changed?
 

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CID, why do you even engage ad at all? Maybe you enjoy it. I prefer to not pay any attention to he/she or hedgehog, other than my occasional outburst of how fucking absurd these jackasses are. Sigh.
 

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CID, why do you even engage ad at all? Maybe you enjoy it. I prefer to not pay any attention to he/she or hedgehog, other than my occasional outburst of how fucking absurd these jackasses are. Sigh.
Couple reasons -- First of all it's an outlet for what I think besides standing on a street corner with a bullhorn. And by discussing it with somebody that doesn't agree with me I learn a little more about how to deal with that kind of thing rather than just bashing it to death which is what I've done most of my life. Besides that, I might even look at something a little different given the other side of thought and I'm never one to think I've got all the answers.
 
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But you don't outnumber people that think like Hedgehog or Anal Disco about guns except on this site. It's a pretty even race. You can't just say "interpret the constitution like we do" It's already been thrown out the window, the right to bear arms has been a conditional right for a long time.
 

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But you don't outnumber people that think like Hedgehog or Anal Disco about guns except on this site. It's a pretty even race. You can't just say "interpret the constitution like we do" It's already been thrown out the window, the right to bear arms has been a conditional right for a long time.
I don't disagree with your statement.... or approve of the context.
 
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It's such an impossible thing that neither side has the right solution. It's probably all of the above, just tone everything down a little bit. Guns are fun, guns are good tools but it's your right to walk down most city streets with a high powered rifle strapped on your back. There's a group called 3% that was doing that very thing in my town last week over some racist BS that antifa was involved in. Shit like that is ridiculous, you need a permit to carry a concealed handgun and we have this going on.
 

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It's such an impossible thing that neither side has the right solution. It's probably all of the above, just tone everything down a little bit. Guns are fun, guns are good tools but it's your right to walk down most city streets with a high powered rifle strapped on your back. There's a group called 3% that was doing that very thing in my town last week over some racist BS that antifa was involved in. Shit like that is ridiculous, you need a permit to carry a concealed handgun and we have this going on.
Hard to have any solution to anything when people think so differently and are willing to die over it.
Generations of another countries think that it's bizarre to have ANY guns since they've been brought up that way.
Communist China doesn't have a gun problem that I know of.

We're a mixing pot of different thought -- Pelosi says it all the time -- "Diversity is our strength." :razz:

The only thing beyond the madness of this so called lone wolf white terrorism that perplexes me is this:
I would suppose that the white kid/man that does this type of thing has nothing left to lose -- so ---
How come after all the shit da man done did to him there haven't been a record number of black people walking into some white area and blasting a bunch of crackaz?
 
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It doesn't help that immigration is a political football game that makes it near impossible to actually solve the problem.

I think the answer is simple but the work is overwhelming. Rebuild the LEGAL immigration so that it can handle the amount of people. Each person would have to be identified, registered, health checked and assimilated. That's how our immigration system worked at one time. THAT'S what built a strong, assimilated and diversified population. In fact at one point you needed a sponsor to get in.

Personally I'd like to see the borders closed to immigration and enforced by the military until we solve our own poverty stricken areas. Dreaming...
 
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The only thing beyond the madness of this so called lone wolf white terrorism that perplexes me is this:
I would suppose that the white kid/man that does this type of thing has nothing left to lose -- so ---
How come after all the shit da man done did to him there haven't been a record number of black people walking into some white area and blasting a bunch of crackaz?
They just aren't wired that way. They cope with nothing left to lose a lot better. They don't premeditate complex shit like that nor do they see any benefit to it. They cannot keep their emotions bottled up long enough to carry out such an act. Getting back at the man for them means they are robbing the mall and shoot anyone in the way. The motive is clear.
 
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It's about massive foreign migration from ONE part of the world and with that, the inherent ideas that have been ingrained into them from generations past.
I think you're vastly overstating the "inherent ideas from generations past", especially in light of all the bitching and moaning I hear from LABS about people nowadays, where apparently society went to shit within 1 generation.

Can you specify which of these ideas has you so concerned? Or this about the dangers of Sharia law (blanket banned by the Constitution, thank you very much) being adopted in the USA?

But, if you decide to change the Constitution by outnumbering my social structures via birth rate from socialist only areas to better align with YOUR ideals of what American SHOULD be, then what?
"Gosh, what happens if people get together and vote and make a change to the political system that I disagree with?"

You just perfectly described Democracy. :up:

AD - You make the assumption that coming here, people WANT to be in line with the Constitution.
And you're assuming they don't which is deliciously xenophobic all on its own.

You've said yourself that you want 'common sense' gun laws like the rest of the democrats 'portray'. And yet the the Constitution says 'shall not be infringed".
Democrats will eventually work towards a complete ban, or something very close to it. Make no mistake about it.

That being said, I don't see banning 30 round magazines in favor of 10 round magazines as infringing upon your RKBA. I don't agree with it - but the logic isn't there.

The Constitutional laws are on the books to stop illegal immigration and now we have sanctuary cities bypassing the laws of the nation for the will of the people.
Disagree. Sanctuary cities are not in violation of federal statutes.

Do Sanctuary Cities Violate the Law?
 
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CID, why do you even engage ad at all? Maybe you enjoy it. I prefer to not pay any attention to he/she or hedgehog, other than my occasional outburst of how fucking absurd these jackasses are. Sigh.
I'm sure there's a safe-space echo chamber you can fuck off to if oppositional ideas trigger your snowflake ass.

If not......fuck off anyway :D
 

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Couple reasons -- First of all it's an outlet for what I think besides standing on a street corner with a bullhorn. And by discussing it with somebody that doesn't agree with me I learn a little more about how to deal with that kind of thing rather than just bashing it to death which is what I've done most of my life. Besides that, I might even look at something a little different given the other side of thought and I'm never one to think I've got all the answers.
Damn! That was good!!!
 

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I don't have an answer. ...and it's not about 'brown' at all. (well maybe for the walmart shooter it was, but thats not what I'm talking about)

It's about massive foreign migration from ONE part of the world and with that, the inherent ideas that have been ingrained into them from generations past. The fact that you would bring up the 'brown' factor is exactly my point. Upholding the Constitution is the only part of this that makes sense. But, if you decide to change the Constitution by outnumbering my social structures via birth rate from socialist only areas to better align with YOUR ideals of what American SHOULD be, then what?

The only think I care for is the Constitution. Any socialist that wants to change it, becomes my enemy.
We sere given the rights to protect it by any means.

The problem CID is simple.

Tnere will be Constitutionists and those who are looking to change it. Looks like Trumpy wants and tries to protect the Constitution but the snowflakes are now, finally...like ive been saying for years, come out of their shells to declare their love for socialism.

America ain t ever gonna be both... Its one or the other.
 
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The only think I care for is the Constitution. Any socialist that wants to change it, becomes my enemy.
We sere given the rights to protect it by any means.

The problem CID is simple.

Tnere will be Constitutionists and those who are looking to change it. Looks like Trumpy wants and tries to protect the Constitution but the snowflakes are now, finally...like ive been saying for years, come out of their shells to declare their love for socialism.

America ain t ever gonna be both... Its one or the other.
I'll ask you the same question - are you cool with Mexicans coming in at the rate they are if they were to uphold the constitution?

Because Mexico is a whole helluva lot more conservative than the US is....
 

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Tnere will be Constitutionists and those who are looking to change it.
Changing the Constitution is constitutional- the Founding Fathers knew it would likely be necessary in the future and made provisions for doing so. That said, unless a proposed change is extremely popular with most of the country (Red and Blue), it ain't gonna happen.
 

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I'll ask you the same question - are you cool with Mexicans coming in at the rate they are if they were to uphold the constitution?

Because Mexico is a whole helluva lot more conservative than the US is....
I don t know how many mexicans you've interrogated...but the concensus is, they come here, pay 5 grand a pop to get over the border, they lay under the radar working for cash 7-10 years. They ll come dad son cousins nephews, stay 10 in an apartment, all the money they make goes back to mejico and in 10 yrs time they ll go back, buy a coffee farm that their kids and grandkids can live well off.

That has been the story i hear, time and again. These people dont want to stay here, they come so they can get the capital to get ahead in their homeland
 
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I don t know how many mexicans you've interrogated...but the concensus is, they come here, pay 5 grand a pop to get over the border, they lay under the radar working for cash 7-10 years. They ll come dad son cousins nephews, stay 10 in an apartment, all the money they make goes back to mejico and in 10 yrs time they ll go back, buy a coffee farm that their kids and grandkids can live well off.

That has been the story i hear, time and again. These people dont want to stay here, they come so they can get the capital to get ahead in their homeland
And ysr_racer ysr_racer utilizes their cheap labor as a slumlord to do his drywall.

I don't see the issue here.
 

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I used them to clean my yard and re-cement my corner roof tiles that flew off after the hurricane.

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Good working folk, but come here through the legal process, then you can do whatever you desire, stay...go...whatever.
Imagine being an illegal alien. You're basically a ghost. My girl cousin's in laws got cut up to pieces after a gang of illegals broke in and forced them to the ATM. It wasn't the first crime they had commited but luckily they got caught.

None of them were in the system, breaking into homes and killing for money was their job.
 

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"Gosh, what happens if people get together and vote and make a change to the political system that I disagree with?"

You just perfectly described Democracy. :up:

"Gosh, there's that great debate skill you have where you chatter on about somebody's thought without ever countering a contextual point with anything YOU believe in."

I just perfectly described a bitch.... again.
 

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So every one is upset at a few deaths. Big fucking deal... Yet every week in Chicago it's an every week occurrence.. yet every one carries on. Obamba did nothing to help that city.. nor will the rest of the peoples... live and death in America... it's all just people being ..... people.
 

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Careful you don't cut yourself on that edge.
Fucking gps.took me off I90/80 East because of heavy traffic bringing me through North Then SOUTH Chicago.. Fat old white guy driving a CTS V with temp plates from Wisconsin.. I say I was a VERY inviting target.. yet a K9, my very inviting friendly face and size made no issues as I passed by.. or maybe it was the Sig at the ready. :)..

We shall all die one day. No one gets to choose how and why. It just comes and everything turns to black...


Crap... hope that last sentence isn't racists. ;) :)
 
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I bet it was little Patrick's childhood schoolyard that caused him to be a gun owner.
The other kids all called him Patty.
Lol wait until they threaten his weed and blow supply then watch him get upset then he will be posting about wanting to buy a AK :). Oh no cannot have thatđź‘Ť. Typical liberal rationale. Well after all Liberalism is actually a mental disorder.
 
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