ICE pollution is not good enough...

Mr Lucky

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Yes, your new car engines are cleaner than ever and pollution from the tailpipe is less than ever it was. It's hard to tax stuff that is disappearing so what is next? Where will the dollars come from?

Well, friends, it's simple really. Your tyres and brakes. Yes, your tyres and brakes make more pollution than dirty petrol engines. Way more. And to prove it they ran a test. But to ensure they got measurable results they ran the test with cars running wrongly inflated tyres, at very high cornering speeds on highly abrasive road surfaces. You know, just to make sure the results that came back would instil horror and indignant outrage!

Pollution warning over car tyre and brake dust

Let's welcome in these new environmental taxes with open selfish arms when they arrive in the near future, once certain groups pick up on this shit and start screaming...
 

rumble phish

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Yes, your new car engines are cleaner than ever and pollution from the tailpipe is less than ever it was. It's hard to tax stuff that is disappearing so what is next? Where will the dollars come from?

Well, friends, it's simple really. Your tyres and brakes. Yes, your tyres and brakes make more pollution than dirty petrol engines. Way more. And to prove it they ran a test. But to ensure they got measurable results they ran the test with cars running wrongly inflated tyres, at very high cornering speeds on highly abrasive road surfaces. You know, just to make sure the results that came back would instil horror and indignant outrage!

Pollution warning over car tyre and brake dust

Let's welcome in these new environmental taxes with open selfish arms when they arrive in the near future, once certain groups pick up on this shit and start screaming...
Hmmm.... well, I can actually see the point that is being made that tires and brakes can, and probably do, create a fair amount of pollution. This would be particulates washed off into the water table/rivers/streams/oceans, etc.. And the production of said components probably creates a fair bit as well. What's the answer? I don't know. I never really gave it any thought. I mean, the particles have to go somewhere right? Brake dust, rubber, and silica compounds ground into the asphalt? And to run a test with under inflated tires (probably how the average driver runs their tires) and excessive corner speeds (guilty as charged) is probably more correct than not.

What I really wonder about is the disposal of tires. We had a tire dump catch fire out here about a decade ago and it burned for almost two years. They just couldn't put it out. It belched a shitload of black, toxic smoke into the air. brakes... meh. The average brakes will last almost the lifetime of the car. I just replaced the original brakes on my '00 Avalon and they had at least 40% of the pad left. The discs were showing stress cracks, which is why I replaced them. But the pads had 20 years and over 140,000 miles on them and still had plenty of meat (and it ain't exactly a light car).
The point that is made in the article about electric cars using regen braking, thus using less brake is an interesting take. I can attest to the fact that while I was driving a 2009 Toyota Prius, I put over 110,000 miles on it and the brakes looked practically new when I turned it in (company car). Also, my stepson's 2010 Ford Fusion plug-in hybrid is going on to nearly 200,000 miles (180,000+) and has never had the brakes touched.
 
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AOC Crazy eyes introduces national bill to ban fracking as of 2025

"The laws would also prohibit fracking within 2,500 feet of homes and schools by February 2021. They also would provide a transition for working families in the fracking industry."

There has to be some porn vids featuring her somewhere out there...
 

CZLoco

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Didn't click.
Tires will forever doom us but recycling has come a long ways.
Never gave a second thought to brakes, but I can imagine the brake dust in the air can't be super healthy.
We need to go back to true pony power.
Or invent a transporter like from Star Treks.

Speaking of transporters.
Weren't we already able to transport small solid objects like 30 years ago?
How has this technology not advanced since then.
 
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