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Even if you have a much better gig, you’re still doing the same thing enrichening the boss. You shoulda seen my old boss’ digs. I’ll see if I can post some pics. Full regulation NCAA basketball court in his house with official hanging scoreboard, locker rooms and the rest. A fire fountain in the driveway with water shooting up 100 feet along with natural gas burning in the water. Full sized hand carved marble rhinos, giraffes, elephants all inside the house…and a gigantic rock in the entry 2 stories high that he shipped home from Italy. Dude is a money obsessed maniac. He makes some fucking money though. He paid me double what I was making to get me to jump ship.
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I would rather make 100k a year in an office over busting my ass in the heat and cold. Been there, done that. I recently left a job that everyone thought I would retire from. Between on call and the work load I had enough. Went to another role with the same employer and now it is just me myself and I, no bitchy coworkers that have an excuse for why they didn’t take the next job in line

If I wouldn’t have gotten the new gig I would have quit. We don’t have debt anymore so I don’t really need that much cash to live on
 
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I would rather make 100k a year in an office over busting my ass in the heat and cold. Been there, done that. I recently left a job that everyone thought I would retire from. Between on call and the work load I had enough. Went to another role with the same employer and now it is just me myself and I, no bitchy coworkers that have an excuse for why they didn’t take the next job in line

If I wouldn’t have gotten the new gig I would have quit. We don’t have debt anymore so I don’t really need that much cash to live on
How is the stress level comparatively between the two jobs?
 

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How is the stress level comparatively between the two jobs?
Ehhh there is still stress but much more manageable. The stress in the previous job was being on call and having to miss out on fun shit. I had to be close to my work vehicle and on site within certain time parameters or suffer at the end of the year if the metrics weren’t met. Also as I said from coworkers that were cherry picking motherfuckers. They knew a repair job was going to be back lot on ladders and they would skip it with zero repercussions.

Now the stress is me trying to motivate our sub contractors to do what they are tasked to and make sure their invoicing is proper. It is comical what they try to get away with. Now I’m home by 330 every weekday, my phone doesn’t wake me up at 2am and I can do whatever I want on the weekends. A normal life has been gotten. I’m stoked
 

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I left The Junkyard because of the stress level, just showing up everyday and seeing all the fucking junk motorcycles would set me off. I make way more money now, for way less work, and I made really good money at The Yard. New job is boring as shit, don't get to ride as many different motorcycles anymore. Pretty much working for the insurance now.
 
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Ehhh there is still stress but much more manageable. The stress in the previous job was being on call and having to miss out on fun shit. I had to be close to my work vehicle and on site within certain time parameters or suffer at the end of the year if the metrics weren’t met. Also as I said from coworkers that were cherry picking motherfuckers. They knew a repair job was going to be back lot on ladders and they would skip it with zero repercussions.

Now the stress is me trying to motivate our sub contractors to do what they are tasked to and make sure their invoicing is proper. It is comical what they try to get away with. Now I’m home by 330 every weekday, my phone doesn’t wake me up at 2am and I can do whatever I want on the weekends. A normal life has been gotten. I’m stoked
Metrics, KPI's, SLA's... it can be too much at times.
 

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The best job I ever had was when I was working for women bosses. They were stupid, and they fucked up by trusting me.

That's on them.
 

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High school drop out, first quarter of tenth grade, six years later I acquired a GED on my first attempt, 98 percentile.

12 years later I entered college, working toward Medical Technology degree but, life got in the way and I dropped out in my second year with a 3.89 GPA doing 16 hour semesters.
 

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On the subject. I would have never been able to attend college except for the GI Bill. I did my four years of service and received four years of the GI Bill. I treated school kind of like a job. I stayed on campus all day, either in class, lab or library. I always took one more class than what was deemed a full load. Went year round and received both a bachelor's and master's in FOUR years. I worked at a bar on Friday and Saturday nights. Life was good.
 

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Was a pretty good student in high school but to get in a good college in Bombay I needed higher grades due to the competition. My achievements in high school cricket got me in a good college.
Did my bachelors degree in accounting and started my masters but didn’t like studying so followed my dream and came to MMI IN Phoenix.
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BA in business administration with a minor in psycology. Ended up with a career where not a lot of my education was applied to my work, but I do not regret it in any way. I feel as though much of what I learned during my education helped me make good financial and personal decisions that allowed me to have a decent life and retire early.
 

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I have invoices cross my desk Allah tyme for training, seems these college educated injun ears don't know everything, like they lead you to believe. Just had one for CISSP, $4,145.00 for one genius. Another guy earned his Masters on the company dime.
 
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I have invoices cross my desk Allah tyme for training, seems these college educated injun ears don't know everything, like they lead you to believe. Just had one for CISSP, $4,145.00 for one genius. Another guy earned his Masters on the company dime.
CISSP is a big one for an IT person, money well spent.
 
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Went to DeAnza Jr College in Cupertino for two years but never graduated because I was always on overseas work with my government contract job going to Japan, Korea, and various other countries and Military sites in Hawaii, West Virginia, San Diego or any place that has Command Centers or Navy installations.

Might go back to college to get my BS "Bull Shit degree"maybe in music far cry from my electronic back ground and also Chick watching.
 

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On the subject. I would have never been able to attend college except for the GI Bill. I did my four years of service and received four years of the GI Bill. I treated school kind of like a job. I stayed on campus all day, either in class, lab or library. I always took one more class than what was deemed a full load. Went year round and received both a bachelor's and master's in FOUR years. I worked at a bar on Friday and Saturday nights. Life was good.
Exactly how I did it. Then every employer since has paid for the rest or ongoing.
 

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Not that I really wanted the certifications but my boss wanted someone on staff with them. Anyway, they paid for both a MCSE and CISSP. Both are over rated. I studied for the CISSP for a week and passed.
 

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degrees just cause pissing contests. I have 4 undergrad degrees that got me nowhere. I did have fun getting them though. Still paying off one of them.
In my experience, the only pissing contests I have seen or been a part of, are for the majority, by the people that don’t have them.

EDIT: Although, I am willing to at least consider that the field you’re in may be more of a factor.
 
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Whoever took that CISSP class (and hopefully certification) will help keep them compliant. I'm on the InfoSec team, compliance is what I do.
Did all that with my government contract job, way before certification became a mandatory. Windows system kept me employed for a long time because of the hackablity of the system.

Did a lot of stuff with Cisco systems switchers and my first switch system was cabletron hubs before we switched to Cisco system.

I had to work a lot in our IWC room making it compliance to over government contract making sure untrusted network, unclassified system and secret system network was with in compliance, KG keying and documations was followed and with in compliance.

Having all our DC and BDC and gateway system working with in specs and all server software upgraded to the latest revision.

I had a lot of on the job experience in government security and found out that some of the people that work for our government via congress and the Pentagon wasn't as knowledgeable in keeping their laptops and computers secured from hackers and possible infiltration from the outside world.

I used and followed a lot of information from a hackers group out of Israel and that group is no longer online anymore.

Use to track and follow a lot of online board and website and users just for fun on where some of these message and posting was coming from and also finding out where all the hops and pings where traveling to the various routers and such.

IP address are the EZ's to find and who owns it and tracking down a user to it's MAC address is possible via the assigned IP address or even the server they use, even if it's a fake IP address or duplicate IP address.

Lets put it this way Labusa was being watch way back when, about the time frame Tony was busted by the government. All links was going thur a fake router and if you search all my old post it points to which government building the router was at.
 

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I went to community college for 3 years (non-consecutive), Cal State LA for a few semesters. I never applied for matriculation for a 2yr, but I am eligible for about 3 degrees, unless some classes no longer meet course requirements. I need about 15 units for a BSME. At the time, the degree wasn't going to get me anymore money, I hated school, and so I quit. Maybe not the best choice, but can't cry over spilled milk.
 
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Did all that with my government contract job, way before certification became a mandatory. Windows system kept me employed for a long time because of the hackablity of the system.

Did a lot of stuff with Cisco systems switchers and my first switch system was cabletron hubs before we switched to Cisco system.

I had to work a lot in our IWC room making it compliance to over government contract making sure untrusted network, unclassified system and secret system network was with in compliance, KG keying and documations was followed and with in compliance.

Having all our DC and BDC and gateway system working with in specs and all server software upgraded to the latest revision.

I had a lot of on the job experience in government security and found out that some of the people that work for our government via congress and the Pentagon wasn't as knowledgeable in keeping their laptops and computers secured from hackers and possible infiltration from the outside world.

I used and followed a lot of information from a hackers group out of Israel and that group is no longer online anymore.

Use to track and follow a lot of online board and website and users just for fun on where some of these message and posting was coming from and also finding out where all the hops and pings where traveling to the various routers and such.

IP address are the EZ's to find and who owns it and tracking down a user to it's MAC address is possible via the assigned IP address or even the server they use, even if it's a fake IP address or duplicate IP address.

Lets put it this way Labusa was being watch way back when, about the time frame Tony was busted by the government. All links was going thur a fake router and if you search all my old post it points to which government building the router was at.
nslookup... traceroute

We do compliance classes not only for the knowledge transfer, but also accountability. A lot of people are now paying attention. ISMS classes too. Ransomware is big now. Crowdstrike is worth it.
 

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A.A.S in Business Management and a CPhT paid for by the GI Bill. Expelled from High School my Freshman year, got my GED at 15 years old worked full time until I was old enough to join the Army at 17yrs old in 1989. Retired from the Army after 23 years, GI Bill paid for my A.A.S. in Business, planned on transferring to a 4 year school for my B.S. but said fuck it I'm too old for this shit so started a 9 month CPhT program got my certification but in the process of doing my two 99 hour externships, I said fuck these druggie, painkiller addicted, zombie motherfuckers that treat even the Pharmacists like crap. I'll end up fighting someone if I try to work at a pharmacy. Did accounting for a couple years now doing Compliance/Investigative work for the Gov.
 

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Nuclear Engineer....finished in the '90s using credits built up in Nuclear Navy. It was a total pain in the dick hole and didn't really advance my career. I was already maxed out in my then job in the amount of daily BS I could deal with without going fuckin postal. Company paid for it. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have burned my valuable youth in pursuit. Means nothing to me now.
I've been trying to get my oldest son (Navy CTN) to take the few classes he needs to just get the piece of paper. He's got tons of credits and certs doing what he does and it wouldn't take much to get a "real" degree. He just doesn't seem too interested. Maybe a bit too much like his dad in that he's always put a high priority on enjoying his life outside work. Surfing, jujitsu, baking, cooking, dogs, travel. He's got a great bride that works hard and is on the same page.
Lots of great offers $$$ from former Navy colleagues now in computer security and network positions and he may eventually take one, or he may do his twenty years and retire and just do fun stuff. I'm probably wrong but I feel like having that stupid sheepskin would be a benefit but he's pretty much nailing life right now.
I've been fortunate to make a decent living doing something I enjoy most of the time and working for people I like. Very low stress these days, especially with no employees to look after. Just a one man show for the most part. Little chance of retiring anytime soon, but I don't really work too hard anyway and haven't for a few years.
I know this sounds kind of silly, but there's a lot to be said for learning to play golf, and play it fairly well. My brother did get a BS and went into medical sales, became a distributor and also had a medical billing company. Pretty much retired in his early forties and just does real estate investment and is partner in a little window screen business for shits and giggles money. He's always been a golfer, but will be the first to admit it played a huge part in his success as he was able to get so much face time with doctors and other clients on the course. It may sound like the "old way" of doing business, but right or wrong, plenty of business still gets done on the golf course.
 

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I've been trying to get my oldest son (Navy CTN) to take the few classes he needs to just get the piece of paper. He's got tons of credits and certs doing what he does and it wouldn't take much to get a "real" degree. He just doesn't seem too interested. Maybe a bit too much like his dad in that he's always put a high priority on enjoying his life outside work. Surfing, jujitsu, baking, cooking, dogs, travel. He's got a great bride that works hard and is on the same page.
Lots of great offers $$$ from former Navy colleagues now in computer security and network positions and he may eventually take one, or he may do his twenty years and retire and just do fun stuff. I'm probably wrong but I feel like having that stupid sheepskin would be a benefit but he's pretty much nailing life right now.
I've been fortunate to make a decent living doing something I enjoy most of the time and working for people I like. Very low stress these days, especially with no employees to look after. Just a one man show for the most part. Little chance of retiring anytime soon, but I don't really work too hard anyway and haven't for a few years.
I know this sounds kind of silly, but there's a lot to be said for learning to play golf, and play it fairly well. My brother did get a BS and went into medical sales, became a distributor and also had a medical billing company. Pretty much retired in his early forties and just does real estate investment and is partner in a little window screen business for shits and giggles money. He's always been a golfer, but will be the first to admit it played a huge part in his success as he was able to get so much face time with doctors and other clients on the course. It may sound like the "old way" of doing business, but right or wrong, plenty of business still gets done on the golf course.
The Don would agree with you :up:
 

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I've been trying to get my oldest son (Navy CTN) to take the few classes he needs to just get the piece of paper. He's got tons of credits and certs doing what he does and it wouldn't take much to get a "real" degree. He just doesn't seem too interested. Maybe a bit too much like his dad in that he's always put a high priority on enjoying his life outside work. Surfing, jujitsu, baking, cooking, dogs, travel. He's got a great bride that works hard and is on the same page.
Lots of great offers $$$ from former Navy colleagues now in computer security and network positions and he may eventually take one, or he may do his twenty years and retire and just do fun stuff. I'm probably wrong but I feel like having that stupid sheepskin would be a benefit but he's pretty much nailing life right now.
I've been fortunate to make a decent living doing something I enjoy most of the time and working for people I like. Very low stress these days, especially with no employees to look after. Just a one man show for the most part. Little chance of retiring anytime soon, but I don't really work too hard anyway and haven't for a few years.
I know this sounds kind of silly, but there's a lot to be said for learning to play golf, and play it fairly well. My brother did get a BS and went into medical sales, became a distributor and also had a medical billing company. Pretty much retired in his early forties and just does real estate investment and is partner in a little window screen business for shits and giggles money. He's always been a golfer, but will be the first to admit it played a huge part in his success as he was able to get so much face time with doctors and other clients on the course. It may sound like the "old way" of doing business, but right or wrong, plenty of business still gets done on the golf course.
As I said, the degree “paper” allowed me to interview and get jobs I could have done without it but without the degree, I wouldn’t have even had a shot at an interview. Can’t hurt to have it in hand but I can honestly say the things I learned from living and pursuing dreams taught me more than anything I learned in school. I sucked bad at physics. Because of that, I cheated a lot. I can still remember one question on a final I had no idea how to solve. Seems elementary today.
I’d advise him to get it while he can. A couple kids from now his casual, free days will be over.
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College or University?
Tidbit:. my experience has been that Universities are generally a conglomerate of Colleges.
Such as: College of Veterinary Medicine, College of Arts and Science, College of Education, etc., etc. would be smaller components of the larger University.
 

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Where I work now is a university. It is comprised of several colleges for each branch of study. I am in the college of engineering. There is also college of aviation science, security, on and on. Within each college, there are a few different degree programs. In COE we have aerospace engineering and mechanical engineering, robotics, electronics, etc.. The difference in aero and Astro is that aero is everything within the atmosphere. Mechanical is Astrospace which is everything beyond the atmosphere.
College of aviation is pilot training fixed and rotary, aviation business, aviation forensics, etc.
Lots of shit going on. I’m a busy motherfucker.
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I graduated highschool by the skin of my teeth. I did just enough to get by and skipped school as much as I could. I was stoned most of the time.

My parents really wanted me to go to college but we're not going to pay for it. I went to a community college for one semester. Well, I signed up for the classes and went to a couple anyway, I guess you could say I went. I put "some college" on job applications, my resume and linked in profile, it counts I guess.
 

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Another interesting question for those without a degree is, do you regret not getting one and do you think you would have been better off if you got a degree?


For me, I don't regret not getting one as I have done pretty well without it. But I wonder if a degree might have given me a head start or sent me down another path.
 
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