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81 Percent of Clinical Trial Volunteers Suffer Reactions to CanSino Biologics’ COVID-19 Vaccine That Uses HEK293 Human Fetal Cell Lines



In that trial, 87 (81 percent) of the 108 participants suffered at least one adverse reaction within seven days after vaccination. Of these, 30 of the human subjects were in the low dose group, 30 were in the middle dose group, and 27 were in the high dose group. Overall, 10 of the participants experienced Grade 3 adverse reactions. Of the 36 participants in the high dose group, six of them had Grade 3 adverse reactions.1 2

Moderna’s Experimental mRNA-1273 COVID-19 Trials Also Noted Grade 3 Reactions





Nothing new here.... same old approach, same old results...
 

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Seems Spain has a good hold on things.



Or not.
The inevitable spike, and being handled logically under the circumstances.

We all knew that it would happen after the restrictions were lowered, as dumb is international and some people don’t grasp the seriousness.

maybe the people being to casual about this will see other areas going back into lockdown, and will have a rethink about their behavior.

The medical system is well prepared and set up if it gets worse, but in the mean time, the affected areas are being shut down.
 

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A bunch of horseshit....

I’ll be in the Texas Medical Center today...the largest Medical City in the World. What do you want to know, the truth?
 
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Why are you concerned aboot what happens in Florida? If the dumb fucks want to go out and get it, and hopefully die, good.
By the way, I have absolutely no interest in your state or what its governor says or does. That goes for the other 52 states that Obama mentioned.
Tin's nearly a full fledged Floridian now. A few more trips and he'll have seniority over the Snow Birds from NY! :D
 

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Absolute horseshit ! Fuck, where you get this shit from, your liberal friends?

The inevitable spike, and being handled logically under the circumstances.

We all knew that it would happen after the restrictions were lowered, as dumb is international and some people don’t grasp the seriousness.

maybe the people being to casual about this will see other areas going back into lockdown, and will have a rethink about their behavior.

The medical system is well prepared and set up if it gets worse, but in the mean time, the affected areas are being shut down.
 

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.....grasp the seriousness ... lol

Just wait until the covid gets hooked up with the new ChY-NA bubonic plague outbreak. THEN it will be serious....almost as serious to me as the Aids outbreak was to me when IT first started killing "people"..or like the ebonic ebola flu

THEN it's be real seriousness bizniz for da chilldrens saftey. :razz:
 

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news reporting now that a staggering % of folks admitted to hospitals for non covid things...are testing positive for covid during their stay.

car crashes, broken bones, etc etc going to the er and admitted to hospitals apparently now include covid testing, and reports of up to 40% of these patients testing positive despite not having any symptoms.
 

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How many are actual Doctors? We have 7 in the family, one owning his pathology clinic. Don’t talk your shit to me, I have no patience. Just drink the cool aid.

From living here 50kms from the epicenter of the pandemic in Spain, and having friends and family in the medical services, or doesn’t that count any more?

Oh yeah, doctors and surgeons are all liberals 🙄
 

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How many are actual Doctors? We have 7 in the family, one owning his pathology clinic. Don’t talk your shit to me, I have no patience. Just drink the cool aid.
funny how when i pass comment here about things over your side of the pond, the common chorus is "you don´t live here, what the fuck do you know?"

and yet, when i comment about the covid situation here (which we are handling considerably better than your orange messiah), it´s suddenly something to do with liberals and obviously untrue, even though you have nothing to base that assumption on.

So yes, I'd agree, you have no patience, as well as a shit ton of preconcieved ideas.
 

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Over 40 days now without a reported case of local transmission- there were 5 cases the day before, but all were imported from the Middle East (it's getting pretty bad there) that showed up in people who'd been in 14-day quarantine from their arrival:

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There used to be hordes of doctors and luckystrike-level scientists who made gobs of money for saying cigarettes are good for us.

Do any of the family docs say sure, go get COVID?
 

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Couldn't an asymptomatic individual have spread it to another asymptomatic individual at some point in the past six weeks?
You mean here? Absolutely, and it's likely happened and hasn't been detected- the point is that after an early outbreak that showed 100+ locally-transmitted symptomatic cases on some days (and it looked like it might get really bad), that's gone down to zero for over a month. I believe it's due to general use of masks.
 
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Couldn't an asymptomatic individual have spread it to another asymptomatic individual at some point in the past six weeks?
Yes and they also can pass it along to an other individual that ends up in the ER then IC. Houston Hospitals many are at capacity or close to it. State Fair of Texas was cancelled today. Football season is next--high school, college and pro.
 

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Go talk to someone who gives a fuck, in sure Spain’s is a shining example of right decisions, just look at your past

funny how when i pass comment here about things over your side of the pond, the common chorus is "you don´t live here, what the fuck do you know?"

and yet, when i comment about the covid situation here (which we are handling considerably better than your orange messiah), it´s suddenly something to do with liberals and obviously untrue, even though you have nothing to base that assumption on.

So yes, I'd agree, you have no patience, as well as a shit ton of preconcieved ideas.
 

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give it a rest, fuck man! Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the cases resulted in death! I have 3 good friends over 50 who had it. No worse that a cold.


the wife´s uncle and his wife (both doctors) and a close friend (sugeon) here all had covid, and thankfully recovered.

their unanimous opinion is "fuck that shit, not good!"
 

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Schools opened here on Monday. with social distancing protocols in place- after four months of my seven-year-old being home, I'm not sure who was happier, her or me. :yahoo:
 
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Schools opened here on Monday. with social distancing protocols in place- after four months of my seven-year-old being home, I'm not sure who was happier, her or me. :yahoo:
Nice :up:

It is a minor miracle in the luckystrike household that my son and I haven't strangled each other with both of us having been working from home for what feels like an eternity...and no end in sight given our respective lines of work are in no hurry to bring anyone back to the office now that they've discovered the 'productivity' marvels of WFH
 
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give it a rest, fuck man! Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the cases resulted in death! I have 3 good friends over 50 who had it. No worse that a cold.
LOL and you are an fool! I am not going to post the numbers and make you look like a rich boy idiot. Look them up here and have someone do the math for you lol. Go play with old trucks. COVID-19 Map
 
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A recent letter signed by 239 researchers claims that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 can spread through airborne microdroplets. Whether that matters is up for debate.

But epidemiologists and infectious disease experts are wary of the limited evidence for airborne transmission, and concerned that recent media reports on this letter will do more harm than good. "It is a shame that they felt the need to publish," Paul Hunter, a professor at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom and a member of WHO's infection prevention committee, told Live Science. What's more, even if COVID-19 can spread via the airborne route, it's likely this happens only in limited circumstances and doesn't require additional precautions in most cases, experts said.
While Adalja allows that the novel coronavirus may indeed spread through airborne microdroplets, he does not think that this is a significant mode of transmission. "With measles, we know that someone can cough in an elevator and, thirty minutes later, that air is still infectious even with fleeting contact," he said. This is not what experts have seen with COVID-19. "It is mostly droplet transmission. You might be able to demonstrate that some aerosolization is occurring but, epidemiologically, is this really how the virus is spreading?"

 
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Go talk to someone who gives a fuck, in sure Spain’s is a shining example of right decisions, just look at your past
Well, our decisions concerning covid are working out considerably better than yours.

That’s why you’re getting a sandy vagina about it.

But look at the bright side, you’re winning!

 

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Well, our decisions concerning covid are working out considerably better than yours.

That’s why you’re getting a sandy vagina about it.

But look at the bright side, you’re winning!

Spain is a very small comparison.. hard to compare the two.. I'm more concerned with the financial bail outs that will be seeked from all the small countries around the world then I am at the rates of infection and deaths in the upcoming YEARS. Let's face it.. no one working because of lock downs will put places with terrible financial situations before this virus even hit behind a very big eight ball.
 

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Spain is a very small comparison.. hard to compare the two.. I'm more concerned with the financial bail outs that will be seeked from all the small countries around the world then I am at the rates of infection and deaths in the upcoming YEARS. Let's face it.. no one working because of lock downs will put places with terrible financial situations before this virus even hit behind a very big eight ball.
Even If you take the rest of Europe, it’s still better than your clusterfuck.

Plus we have the added benefit of not having to worry about bankruptcy as a result of medical bills.

BTW, seems the names of who got bailouts from your govt are being released. Seems both Kanye west and Betsy de vos have blagged multiple millions.
 

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Even If you take the rest of Europe, it’s still better than your clusterfuck.

Plus we have the added benefit of not having to worry about bankruptcy as a result of medical bills.

BTW, seems the names of who got bailouts from your govt are being released. Seems both Kanye west and Betsy de vos have blagged multiple millions.
The only clusterfuck going on here is you, I’m sorry but thats the truth. You gobble up the horseshit at an alarming rate. ....what is the percent of cases verses the death rate, you even have a clue? Ours is quite low.
 

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The best response was displayed by Singapore and Taiwan. Hard core two week shut down in march, they have been up and running since.
Canada is doing okay but...... we will never ever recover from the debt and our economy is destroyed.
Many like me who have had successful businesses are now faced with the stark reality that my final years on earth will be cutting coupons out to eat and scrounging around for life necessities.
The cure may well end up being worse than the disease.
My job as a placement agency has now turned into grief conseling. I have lost count of candidate s I have known for 20 years plus who are now homeless and on welfare. Almost every night after working a day hoping that some business comes through you tear up from what is happening. In Canada imho we have it worse as it is clear Trudeau,s agenda is socialism, he is giddy at how he has us all begging for scraps.
It's just the beginnning of the end for us. If Alberta and Saskatchewan are smart they would leave Canada and become your new states. The worst is yet to come and let's watch the civil uproar when a vaccine comes out and who actually gets it and who is last.
 

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The left's Sheeple Covid Hysteria is the new Scientology religion. You've got to work your way up to level 7 fear before you're allowed to make any decisions for yourself otherwise you're endangering the collective.


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Europe has over twice the population of the United States

To date, you have exceeded the number of deaths for the whole of Europe, and are outstripping the number of new infections by an industrial rate.

You have 4% of the planets population, with 25% of total cases, and about 18% of the world total of fatalities.

By anyone’s reckoning, that is not “quite low”, except to other cult members.

The only bullshit here is claiming your government’s actions have resulted in numbers that are “quite low”.
 
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Even If you take the rest of Europe, it’s still better than your clusterfuck.

Plus we have the added benefit of not having to worry about bankruptcy as a result of medical bills.

BTW, seems the names of who got bailouts from your govt are being released. Seems both Kanye west and Betsy de vos have blagged multiple millions.
Seems Devin Nunes winery got some of that sweet sweet bailout cash as well.
 

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The left's Sheeple Covid Hysteria is the new Scientology religion. You've got to work your way up to level 7 fear before you're allowed to make any decisions for yourself otherwise you're endangering the collective.
Well, many states that are spiking hard have shown that they lack the basic intelligence to make their own decisions.

Texas and Florida being good examples.
 

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Don't know about Texas, but Florida's a "detestation" state so we offer full service, in house, covid infections via the outstanding social closeness rules of family interaction and fun! Water slides, roller coasters, and fecal beaches await you so come on down and lick up a good set of lung cough while we still have the lead! :beer::up:
 
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Europe has over twice the population of the United States

To date, you have exceeded the number of deaths for the whole of Europe, and are outstripping the number of new infections by an industrial rate.

You have 4% of the planets population, with 25% of total cases, and about 18% of the world total of fatalities.

By anyone’s reckoning, that is not “quite low”, except to other cult members.

The only bullshit here is claiming your government’s actions have resulted in numbers that are “quite low”.
You're certain that Russia is being completely transparent?
 

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been over a month since "phase 2 reopening"...and all the spikes in positives.

deaths still seem to be fairly stagnant, especially given the suspect nature of reporting of "covid related death"....its becoming more and more difficult to follow the "just wait, its coming" theory that all the sudden folks are going to begin dropping dead by the thousands.

florida has averaged 9000+ new "positives" a day for the past two weeks straight....given thats 5 to 10x the positive cases in the previous few MONTHS without any significant change in deaths....thats more telling than any other statistic.

who knows, maybe all the at risk people are wearing masks, washing hands, and otherwise staying away from potential infections and leaving the otherwise healthy people to get infected without any symptoms or real risk of death?
 

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Even If you take the rest of Europe, it’s still better than your clusterfuck.

Plus we have the added benefit of not having to worry about bankruptcy as a result of medical bills.

BTW, seems the names of who got bailouts from your govt are being released. Seems both Kanye west and Betsy de vos have blagged multiple millions.
For the record ... i am all against all bail outs domestic or foreign. America has been built by people there where rich.. then broke.. then rich again.. if one way fails you find another way to support oneself
 
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