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big difference between expecting someone to fail as a president...and HOPING he would on a grand stage in such a way that millions of americans would feel it just to prove a point.

I can see how you dont see a difference though.
Oh boy. I feel like you're spinning some youtube comments to reflect that MILLIONS of Americans want a recession.

Trust me - we don't need a recession to see what a fucking dunce Trump is.
 

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I'm literally quoting CID from a few years back.

Lofty too. There are a few others too.
So, a couple of guys spew some shit here and now ALL right wingers are calling for armed revolution? Okay. So, using your methodology ALL liberals are calling for armed revolution, ala antifa.
 
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So, a couple of guys spew some shit here and now ALL right wingers are calling for armed revolution? Okay. So, using your methodology ALL liberals are calling for armed revolution, ala antifa.
So we agree my statement is not COMPLETELY correct, it's just partially correct?

I'll accept that.

The idea that Republicans only hoped something bad happened to Obama and not the country is just as incorrect (or correct, if we're doing partial credit) as it is to say about today's situation and Trump.
 

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Granted, it's probably not fair to cherry pick from some of the lesser stable folks of the militant right...

edit: Beat me by a second.
This is just a perfect example of your propensity to generalize when it comes to those you disagree with. When push comes to shove, metaphorically speaking, you wind up no better than those you like to argue against. Just a little more articulate.
 

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Wrong.

The right wing was drooling from the mouth at the idea of an armed revolution to wipe out political opponents.
So we agree my statement is not COMPLETELY correct, it's just partially correct?

I'll accept that.
You see? You simply cannot accept that your statement was COMPLETELY wrong. If you had stated "some on the right", but you didn't. You said "the right wing", referring to EVERYONE who agrees with conservative opinions.
 

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I know.

I fit in very well around here. :up:
Yeah, you do. But you also relish the role of being the "anti-LAB's" member. Please don't deny it because it's completely and utterly obvious (and you've all but admitted it in past posts). Just stop trying to be "above it all".
 
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You see? You simply cannot accept that your statement was COMPLETELY wrong. If you had stated "some on the right", but you didn't. You said "the right wing", referring to EVERYONE who agrees with conservative opinions.
Dude, get your head out of your ass. My statement, as literal as you care to take it, is not meant that EVERYONE that holds a conservative view hoped for a bloody and violent revolution.

Just a quite of few of the chuckle heads around here did and that's noteworthy. Maybe they only exist on the internet and none in real life.

Just like when people around here talk about the left wing, they're not referring to EVERY SINGLE PERSON that's ever held a liberal opinion.

At least I'm guessing, maybe that's a wrong assumption given the leanings of some here.
 
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Please don't deny it because it's completely and utterly obvious (and you've all but admitted it in past posts). Just stop trying to be "above it all".
Deny what, exactly?

I enjoy debate and snark as much as the next asshole here, but if I disagree with people, it's because I believe in my argument. Not sure where you're going with the "all but admitted it" part.
 

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Dude, get your head out of your ass. My statement, as literal as you care to take it, is not meant that EVERYONE that holds a conservative view hoped for a bloody and violent revolution.

Just a quite of few of the chuckle heads around here did and that's noteworthy. Maybe they only exist on the internet and none in real life.

Just like when people around here talk about the left wing, they're not referring to EVERY SINGLE PERSON that's ever held a liberal opinion.

At least I'm guessing, maybe that's a wrong assumption given the leanings of some here.
You relish the opportunity to jump on someone when they make a blanket statement, but when you do it we're all supposed to just "know what you meant".

Okay.
 

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Wrong.

The right wing was drooling from the mouth at the idea of an armed revolution to wipe out political opponents.
Ok by that logic then they STILL want the country to fail then? -- My guess is that the people that would want a war like that haven't changed their minds since you say they want the country to fail, so I guess they must hate Trump too right?
 

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Back to the topic-at-hand, Trump is walking back his 'phone call' comments a bit (when pressed about them during another press conference, he suddenly didn't want to talk about it, after making the calls the center of the earlier press conference- he directed questions toward Mnuchin, who didn't confirm Trump's earlier claims), and Beijing has denied any change in their stance, saying 'China won't cave to US pressure' in a tweet from official state media after Trump made his statements. The markets predictably went up, which was likely one of Trump's goals in bringing it up in the first place, especially after the big hit they took on .Friday after his angry tweets.

The next round of tariffs is supposed to begin on Sunday, then an increase of existing tariffs on October 1st, then another round of new tariffs on December 15th- let's see if there's another walk-back or delay. The justification (fabricated or not) is now out there for doing it. If a potential deal is announced, though, I don't expect it to be the hugely one-sided agreement Trump said he'd negotiate- both sides will have to walk away with enough concessions to call it a 'victory'.
 
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China would be smart to want trump gone. Can't see how they have less to lose than he does. They can wait it out until he's gone and end up with a way better deal. Trump is probably the one calling them.
 

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im certainly far more intelligent than folks who spend their lives studying/learning/educating and actually working in those fields just from what I read off the internet!

Its really just bad luck that I am not as successful as folks like that, or ever tapped to be in positions to make those sorts of decisions...but certainly not for a lack of knowledge and expertise!

the world would be a far better place if folks in power just listened to posts on the internet on just how wrong they are and what they should do instead!
 

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The Shanghai Composite has already more than recovered from yesterday's loss- the markets are like a seesaw everywhere.
 
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You relish the opportunity to jump on someone when they make a blanket statement, but when you do it we're all supposed to just "know what you meant".

Okay.

Here's the thing: when I pick on conservatives, I don't mean every single person who pulled the R lever. Not all conservatives are militant racist homophobes that dislike foreigners that enjoy the taste of their big government overlords boots. I sure as fuck am not going to qualify every one of my statements with "I know not all conservatives are not like this...." If it offends you, maybe the shoe fit. If it does, that's your problem, not mine. Maybe your issue lies with the loud idiots and not the people pointing them out.

I can't say the same about the cherry picking about liberals that goes on on a daily basis here. So when I see something like "liberals hate America", you'll have to excuse my dismissal of your complaints as nothing more than partisan hot air. Fact is, none of that stuff bothers you because it's coming from YOUR side, but as soon as it's an opposite opinion, uh oh....
 
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My guess is that the people that would want a war like that haven't changed their minds since you say they want the country to fail, so I guess they must hate Trump too right?
Wrong again.

The Democrats and mainstream media will still be blamed 100%, despite the BEST efforts of PATRIOTIC President Trump because DEMONCRAPS want to see AMERICA fall.
 
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What you supposedly quoted was NEVER me saying that I hope the country fails. I said that there's a war coming -- and you can BET on that.... STILL.
No God fearing red blooded American Patriot ever said they wanted America to fail. Just that if it did, they were looking forward to killing some libs and ushering an era of peace and prosperity.....which in plain English simply means putting their guy in power....autocratic style.

And don't give me any goddamn lip about limited terms - there's not a Trump nut hugger alive that wouldn't want to override the Constitution to allow for more than 2 terms. Small government my ass.
 
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Scarface said it best...

"I'll kill a communist for fun, but for a greencard, I'll carve him up real good"

You liberal socialists disgust me. Can't wait to see you cry in 2020
 

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- there's not a Trump nut hugger alive
Lol first you say you dont generalize, it's not ALL of them. Then you literally say all of them.....

I'm a trump supporter and I dont want him getting more than the constitutionally allowed 2 terms. If we change that now the gibsmedats could have a democrat in for 50 years.

No thanks. 2 terms even for the guy I like.
 

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enjoy the taste of their big government overlords boots.
This makes no sense. It's the democrats who want an enormous government controlling everything, providing everything, regulating everything, telling everyone what they can say and not say.
 

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China would be smart to want trump gone. Can't see how they have less to lose than he does. They can wait it out until he's gone and end up with a way better deal. Trump is probably the one calling them.
That's been the problem for decades. China had the better deal. Every president acknowledged that but didnt know what to do about it.
 

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first you say
That's the "shtick" -- Always generalize, bob and weave, and never take a stand on anything because that might nail down an actual thought or opinion of one's self.
Themz da rules.....That way you can always be liked and you can never be criticized for your own thought process and it's much easier to manipulate a conversation that way.
It's a classic case of a narcissistic passive aggressive.

Don't try to understand the Holy-Troll, just use it .... like toilet paper.. to keep yourself clean. :D:up:
 

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Lets take a comedy break and apply this skit to where you see fit in this thread....

Let's call it the NEW Amerika... Dave Chappelle nails it again.

 
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This makes no sense. It's the democrats who want an enormous government controlling everything, providing everything, regulating everything, telling everyone what they can say and not say.
Sweet summer child.

Both sides want government oversight of the things THEY want to control. Which President signed for data collecting on citizens via the Patriot Act hmmmm? And created an entire massive government agency practically overnight - the TSA?

And when Obama used executive orders, Republicans and Trump himself screamed about power abuse..... then when Trumpy gets elected, he signs MORE EOs at a faster rate than Obama did. He'll hold the government hostage over border wall funding. And Republicans eat this shit up happily. Why? Because they love big government. Oh, they'll say all sorts of doom and gloom about the evils of tyranny when a Dem is in power, but as soon as the Repubs are in, it's all about the power of the state.

Republicans want a small government? That's fucking hilarious.
 
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Just like CID said....always vague, always leave a way out.
There's people here that want Trump for 2020, 2024, 2028. Literally stated. No idea why you're acting like you have a short memory.

Oh right, it's the rumble phish method - the assholes around here don't count when it comes to Republicans.
 

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George W Bush was the biggest failiure and the worst for our Constitution
I always vocalized my dislike for the stupid fucking chimp.
No self respecting patriot likes what Bush did to this country.
He did not represent the actions of a republican president. He was his daddy's pawn, all they cared about was filling their pockets at any cost. Killing 3000 americans on 9/11 in order for them to pass the Patriot act and invade (rape) the middle east.

Joe Biden can run as a republican, doesn t mean he is one.
 

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Democrats of the old are not the Democrats of the new and likewise Republicans of the old are not the Republicans of the new. But the 'new' isn't quite clearly defined yet either. Both parties have been struggling with the so called "base" for power within its own ranks for decades shown by the continued amassing polarization. Both losing registers for this sublime notion of political independence via no party affiliation and centrist ideology and yet each representative wanting to be the stand out savior for their own described tribe. At this point it's cliche to say that eventually all are destined to fail by label of false messiah no matter how well the initial offering comes about.

Clinton won the popular vote nationally, perhaps as John Nichols gloated in The Nation by an “unprecedented” margin that might run as high as two million or more. The problem is that 1.5 million of that can be accounted for from Clinton’s margin over Trump in New York City alone.(16)The majorities in the coastal states of California and New York by themselves accounts for more than her net majority; the rest of the country continues to see its Democratic vote stagnate or decline.

The Democrats are and have been for decades the party of the (neoliberal) status quo when millions of all races have seen their living standards shrink and future prospects disappear and, as a result, have come to despise the status quo. And as the many millionaire Democrats in Congress (average wealth of a Democratic Representative is $5.7 million) and their business buddies demonstrate for all to see, they are part of the nation’s elite.
Who Put Trump in the White House

People talk about Trump being this ruthless asshole that stomps on things. Lets go back in history a little bit to that little quiet man we all know now.... Jimmy Carter.... who today would be considered a republican but was then somewhat like today's quintessential 'democratic socialist".

 
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China would be smart to want trump gone. Can't see how they have less to lose than he does. They can wait it out until he's gone and end up with a way better deal. Trump is probably the one calling them.
amazes me that you would think negotiating with a super power the policies would transcend political regimes
 
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