Results 1 to 25 of 25

Thread: chain brakes on chain saws

  1. #1
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default chain brakes on chain saws

    what is the reason for this?

    I mean seriously. All I see in it is some kind of safety device for fools and on top of that a super pain in the ass to remove and re-install the clutch cover.

    This is a Husky saw that I am talking about.

    What's the pro's and con's of removing this garbage and leaving it on?

    Folks that cut for a living, chime in as you can, other coments welcomed as well

  2. #2

    Talking Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    If the saw kicks back on you a brake could save your ass.

    Or it might not.

  3. #3
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    "If the saw kicks back on you a brake could save your ass."

    I have to double check but..., I believe the brake(lever/gaurd) has to be pushed all the way "forward" to tighten little band around clutch bell.

    How the hell could that possibly save one's ass in a kick back situation?

    Again, I could be wrong in the direction of engagment/applicaton of brake.

    What I was told by another individual wasthat whilst climbing trees, it's supposed to keep chain from moving.

    Well fuck me, I would'nt be climbing a tree with running saw to begin with.

    I was just curious as I'm arguing with another on this.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Out in the field
    Posts
    27,432

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    It is to keep you from sawing into your forehead when you do something stupid. Mostly there for city boys who didn't grow up with a chainsaw in their crib.

    Don't even have to dick with the thing when I take the cover off my Stihl.
    There's real horsepower, and there's DynoJet horsepower.
    Don't get confused, DynoJet horsepower is not real horsepower.

  5. Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    I use the one on my Stihl like a parking brake.

    Click it on when I need to take more than a step or two.

    I cut out in the woods a lot, lots of shit to trip over.

    I also use when I want to set the saw down for a second, and don't want to shut it off.

    I've never had it function and save me from a kick back.

    Tom
    (quote Farouk The Leper King)
    It can't be fixed and that is my point! It stopped being able to be fixed years ago when they let all the fucking Buell Scum in!

  6. #6

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    I have used a lot of chain-saws as a full time farmer & as an instrument man to a survey firm to to help in survey work. What I see is the push forward bar was with the chain with to much slack Think of a m/c in the same form with lack of tension in the rear chain. Both the same. Also a bit of lube can be of some help.

    We had a corporation of a town, realizing we were into a lot of hacking away, so they supplied a chap with a chain-saw, with no adjust spanners. In 30 minutes or less the chain had jammed on the bar due to lack of the ajustment bar. So he was happy to walk out of the hip deep snow to the Corporation & so less work for him. We did the work with a hatchet along with a machette.
    Last edited by Smitty; 04-16-2012 at 05:23 PM.
    Remember all the others on the road are crazy & out to kill you.

  7. #7

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    As an ex-fruit orchard I used my chain saw to where I wore several of them out through extensive use.

    I had purchased this other orchard & come Autumn I had to drop some shot tree. I went up 12 feet on my girette, to open the cage, for safety, to sort of step out & hitting this old large tree, when suddenly I am laying on the grass, having fallen out of the tree or the cage of the girette, to hit the ground. So yes the chain saw was still tickeing with the bar & chain-blade inches from my face. So yes as a farmer we take a lot of chances in life believe me.
    Remember all the others on the road are crazy & out to kill you.

  8. #8

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    It's a safety device and a very valid one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Farouk The Gay Leper King View Post
    Yeah but it's not an iPhone...

  9. #9
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    sure looks like it's hard on the clutch bell/housing ad even on the crank when saw is running/cutting wide open and a branch contacts saw and engages the idiot device/brake and halts chain while clutch pack is fully,centrifugally engaged.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    The unconstitutional state
    Posts
    5,311

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    the most dangerous power tool in america

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    is over-rated.
    Posts
    15,636

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by speednut13 View Post
    the most dangerous power tool in america
    Right after the automobile.
    "Unforgiveness and bitterness are the poisons we drink believing it will kill someone else." ~ Unknown

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    16,781

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Chain brakes are VERY effective and perfectly designed to be almost entirely invisible to the saw's use......IMO, you would be a fucking ignorant idiot to tear it off of the saw.....

    They work VERY well in the rare instance that you fuck up....a chainsaw will forever change your whole life in about a tenth of a second....
    Supplier of LABusas' FASTEST Billets...

  13. Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    There are not very many minor chainsaw accidents.

    Tom
    (quote Farouk The Leper King)
    It can't be fixed and that is my point! It stopped being able to be fixed years ago when they let all the fucking Buell Scum in!

  14. #14

    Talking Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by dr650 View Post
    There are not very many minor chainsaw accidents.

    Tom
    Buddy of mine did just that. He was trying to cut off a stump in his front yard. Saw kicked back and got him in the leg. Damned near cut his foot off at the ankle. Off work 18 months and when he was released by his doctor his job refused to take him back because his leg is still fucked up.

    Bad deal fo sho.

  15. #15
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by BilletMan View Post
    Chain brakes are VERY effective and perfectly designed to be almost entirely invisible to the saw's use......IMO, you would be a fucking ignorant idiot to tear it off of the saw.....

    They work VERY well in the rare instance that you fuck up....a chainsaw will forever change your whole life in about a tenth of a second....
    So you think in one of those rare instances that it's needed the operator could apply/engage it in time? I can't see that myself.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    16,781

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Kaw View Post
    So you think in one of those rare instances that it's needed the operator could apply/engage it in time? I can't see that myself.
    It automatically engages itself, dummy! Go find a youtube video or something. The saw kicks and the very hand/arm that you're about to cut off (in addition to your face) reacts with the kicking saw and it stops. No, they're NOT counting on your drunken ass to activate it!!

    It kicks back and is headed at your flesh at full speed. It's your limbs that are holding the saw that activate it, without your drunken input! Got that? Good. I'm not singling you out as a drunken saw operator. ALL chainsaw operators are DRUNK! I've burned 100 gallons of chainsaw fuel while drunk as shit!!

    Leave it the fuck alone, they're anticipating your drunken ass using that saw...
    Supplier of LABusas' FASTEST Billets...

  17. #17

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    THESE are the best safety device to have when using a chainsaw.


    Last year had 2 guys on my crew, while cutting down scrub trees on hills, hit theirselves in the close vicinity of their femoral artery with a brand new Stihl saw. The kevlar weave worked perfectly and they came out of it injury free.
    Of course, I never let either of them use a chainsaw on that job ever again.

  18. #18
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by BilletMan View Post
    It automatically engages itself, dummy! Go find a youtube video or something. The saw kicks and the very hand/arm that you're about to cut off (in addition to your face) reacts with the kicking saw and it stops. No, they're NOT counting on your drunken ass to activate it!!

    It kicks back and is headed at your flesh at full speed. It's your limbs that are holding the saw that activate it, without your drunken input! Got that? Good. I'm not singling you out as a drunken saw operator. ALL chainsaw operators are DRUNK! I've burned 100 gallons of chainsaw fuel while drunk as shit!!

    Leave it the fuck alone, they're anticipating your drunken ass using that saw...
    I know man. why I was asking questions

  19. #19
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by RobBase View Post
    THESE are the best safety device to have when using a chainsaw.


    Last year had 2 guys on my crew, while cutting down scrub trees on hills, hit theirselves in the close vicinity of their femoral artery with a brand new Stihl saw. The kevlar weave worked perfectly and they came out of it injury free.
    Of course, I never let either of them use a chainsaw on that job ever again.
    I have a pair of those too. They dont have a brake in em though

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Out in the field
    Posts
    27,432

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by RobBase View Post
    THESE are the best safety device to have when using a chainsaw.


    Last year had 2 guys on my crew, while cutting down scrub trees on hills, hit theirselves in the close vicinity of their femoral artery with a brand new Stihl saw. The kevlar weave worked perfectly and they came out of it injury free.
    Of course, I never let either of them use a chainsaw on that job ever again.
    I have a pair. Wore the shit out of them during the hurricane clean up.
    I started at the top of the pile of knocked over trees and cut my way down.
    Had a 100ft length of tangled mess about 20ft wide. Wore my steel toe boots too.
    There's real horsepower, and there's DynoJet horsepower.
    Don't get confused, DynoJet horsepower is not real horsepower.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    11,663

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Children.....kick back occurs when the top part of the bar tip hits something, or when the saw binds on the top part of the bar.

    Chain brakes are a good thing. Particulary when you're limbing or bumping knotts. I leave them on my saws, and I've worn out more saws and cut more timber than any of you, probably more than all of you combined.

    I like the chain brake on my climbing/topping saw as well for passing the saw between my climbing rope and my body, its a comfort to be able to do that. Wasn't always so, and once a long time ago I slipped and cut through about a third of my climbing rope, while 100' + in the tree. Fortunately my climbing rope had a cable core.

    Leave the brake on the saw.

  22. #22

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    I agree, leave it on. My saw doesn't have anything like that, old Mac 10-10, great for small stuff and limbing. I've never had a problem, only once did I grab a bit O denim, no flesh.

    I gotta tell ya snail, I've cut as much as you in one year, but that was just the one year, after that I stopped cutting fire wood. Maybe not, maybe just a close second. Or a year you only cut firewood for yourself.........

    I've done my share.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Central Coast, Cali
    Posts
    21,978

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    naw....
    Take it off...
    AND... Grind down those bumps in front of the cutters on the chain too...
    They aren't needed...

  24. #24
    Fast Kaw Guest

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Quote Originally Posted by XXFirefighter View Post
    naw....
    Take it off...
    AND... "Grind down those bumps in front of the cutters on the chain too..."
    They aren't needed...

    I did that to a chain a moon or two ago and that fucker would literally drag you through a log

    I'm by no means a lumber jack pro but I have cut a few trees up in my short lived 48 years

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    21,406

    Default Re: chain brakes on chain saws

    Excellent answer from the man who would know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Children.....kick back occurs when the top part of the bar tip hits something, or when the saw binds on the top part of the bar.

    Chain brakes are a good thing. Particulary when you're limbing or bumping knotts. I leave them on my saws, and I've worn out more saws and cut more timber than any of you, probably more than all of you combined.

    I like the chain brake on my climbing/topping saw as well for passing the saw between my climbing rope and my body, its a comfort to be able to do that. Wasn't always so, and once a long time ago I slipped and cut through about a third of my climbing rope, while 100' + in the tree. Fortunately my climbing rope had a cable core.

    Leave the brake on the saw.
    The object of a system of authority is order, not justice. Justice matters only after injustice sufficiently compromises order

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •