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Wrench_Whore
10-14-2003, 09:34 PM
ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST -- The county is considering closing Glendora Mountain Road following a recent traffic fatality, officials said.

Supervisor Michael Antonovich opened an investigation into accidents and deaths on the 15-mile-long mountain road, after 17-year-old Johnny Diaz of Azusa was killed Sept. 21.

‘‘When the supervisor has all the information and recommendations, he will make a decision in the interest of public safety,'' said Tony Bell, Antonovich's communications director.

Diaz was a passenger in a Honda driven by another 17-year-old when the car veered off the road and plunged 380 feet down a canyon 9.8 miles above the Valley around midnight.

Since about 1980, at least 13 deaths and more than 60 accidents have been reported on the road, which travels north into the Angeles National Forest from Sierra Madre Boulevard near Valley Center Avenue in Glendora.

In the past two months, four cars have gone off the road, said David Smail, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Search and Rescue coordinator.

The road has been closed at least twice before, once in 1986 due to complaints of reckless driving and during repairs after the September 2002 Curve Fire.

Bell said county public works and law enforcement are assessing the road to determine what could contribute to a high level of accidents on it.

Diaz's mother, Lourdes Diaz, said the road should be closed on weekends to protect teens who want to drive it.

‘‘That will be the least that we would want, if not close it permanently,'' she said.

California Highway Patrol Sgt. Mark Worthington said the CHP would accommodate the county's investigation.

‘‘Obviously, the Highway Patrol is concerned with the engineering of our highways to make sure they are as safe as possible for the motoring public,'' Worthington said.

CHP officials have said any problems on Glendora Mountain Road are typically the result of poor driver behavior, not the road, and such problems happen on all mountainous, curved roads.

But Glendora resident Ed Knapp calls the road a veritable raceway.

Knapp, who runs with the Glendora Ridge Runners club, said motorcyclists ‘‘buzz'' the group and often speed along.

Nearly 200 motorcycles flooded the road the first day it was reopened in August, he said. ‘‘We were really, really scared. We have seen so much carnage up there -- kids down on motorcycles ... skid marks ... it's pathetic. On weekends, it's a three-ring circus up there,'' Knapp said.

Diana L. Roemer can be reached at (626) 962-8811, Ext. 2105, or by e-mail at diana.roemer@sgvn.com.

Wrench_Whore
10-16-2003, 01:54 PM
"CHP officials have said any problems on Glendora
Mountain Road are typically the result of poor driver
behavior, not the road, and such problems happen on
all mountainous, curved roads.


But Glendora resident Ed Knapp calls the road a
veritable raceway.


Knapp, who runs with the Glendora Ridge Runners club
(a running club), said motorcyclists ‘‘buzz'' the
group and often speed along.


Nearly 200 motorcycles flooded the road the first day
it was reopened in August, he said. ‘‘We were really,
really scared. We have seen so much carnage up there
-- kids down on motorcycles ... skid marks ... it's
pathetic. On weekends, it's a three-ring circus up
there,'' Knapp said."

KRAZZZY
10-16-2003, 08:43 PM
There's plenty of other places to run.... but not to ride! :dwn:

Lota Fun R
10-19-2003, 09:03 PM
Thank's for posting that CW.

The coming week's will have alot to do with their decision.

Lota Fun R
10-21-2003, 12:18 AM
Since about 1980, at least 13 deaths and more than 60 accidents have been reported on the road. That's 0.5 per year.


Compare that to the crest or ortega or....or.... One per weekend in peek squid season.

Some time's it has more bike's than other's, sometimes it's luge boarder's or bicyclist's, import sport's car's, it's not just the bike's, but we can do our part to not make the rest of us unwelcome!

Be cool in town.

KRAZZZY
10-21-2003, 12:26 AM
Since about 1980, at least 13 deaths and more than 60 accidents have been reported on the road. That's 0.5 per year.


Compare that to the crest or ortega or....or.... One per weekend in peek squid season.

Some time's it has more bike's than other's, sometimes it's luge boarder's or bicyclist's, import sport's car's, it's not just the bike's, but we can do our part to not make the rest of us unwelcome!

Be cool in town.


Since there is a dead end up there seems like a perfect place to give the bikes a place to go.... Cops... read here....

dnakase
10-21-2003, 10:11 PM
Pasadena Star-News


Enforcement, not closure


Monday, October 20, 2003 -

WHILE we acknowledge there have been accidents on Glendora Mountain Road, we don't believe closing the road is the best alternative.

Closing that road, a main entrance to the Angeles National Forest, just adds to the closures already in and around the wilderness area (Highway 39 remains closed just north of East Fork Road from fires in 2002. The highway has been closed just south of Highway 2 for 25 years, and so on).

Better enforcement is the best answer to stopping speeders and the deaths those decisions often bring on mountain roads.

Certainly we grieve with the family of the young man killed in a plunge off the road late last month, but closing the road isn't likely to stop young people from engaging in the type of activity that resulted in the crash.

For decades, roads leading into the foothills have been used as party spots for teens. The gatherings usually involve drinking, drugs and other activity if not blatantly antisocial, anti-parental control.

Surviving such self-destructive behavior seems a rite of passage for teens who live in the shadow of the San Gabriel and San Bernardino mountains and their foothills.

But speeding on mountain roads, day or night, isn't limited to teenagers. No, too many adult drivers have been killed over the years on Mt. Baldy Road and other roadways leading into the area's mountain ranges. Passing when they shouldn't on switchbacks, speeding around curves, just bad judgment all have taken their toll in lives lost and serious injury inflicted on drivers and passengers.

We understand Lourdes Diaz's desire to prevent such accidents claiming another young life such as that of her son Johnny, just 17 when the car in which he was riding veered off Glendora Mountain Road and down a canyon about midnight Sept. 21. But the very nature of mountain roads tight curves, little traffic draws young drivers and motorcyclists who wish to test their skills or try out often new, powerful vehicles.

Diaz's death was the result of poor decision-making, including his own in going along with a group that chose to use mountain roads often poorly patrolled and isolated for gatherings. Also, according to law enforcement on the scene, neither Diaz nor the driver were wearing seat belts. That alone could have possibly saved the young man's life.

The death of anyone, especially a young person on the verge of adulthood, is a tragedy. But closing a road to responsible drivers isn't the answer. We instead urge Supervisor Mike Antonovich, who has called for an investigation into possible closure, to push for stepped-up patrols, especially on weekend nights, to deter young people from using turnouts as personal party spots.

Immediate saturation by the California Highway Patrol ought to be sought. It's pretty amazing what expensive ticketing can do in an area known for speeding, red-light running, and other traffic infractions. Antonovich ought to start there and move away from closure.

KRAZZZY
10-21-2003, 10:29 PM
:up: Until the end.. more cops... :dwn:

People need to be responsible for the actions they take...

Hawkman
10-22-2003, 11:39 AM
It's terribly sad to loose a child, but at the same time...fuck them for acting stupid and not wearing seatbelts and fuck the mom for not taking responsibility for her son's stupidity and trying to blame it on the road. :fu:

I've done some stupid shit...but I take responsibility for it all. I'm just fortunate to still be alive. :-?

Lota Fun R
10-22-2003, 09:03 PM
It's terribly sad to loose a child, but at the same time...fuck them for acting stupid and not wearing seatbelts and fuck the mom for not taking responsibility for her son's stupidity and trying to blame it on the road. :fu:

I've done some stupid shit...but I take responsibility for it all. I'm just fortunate to still be alive. :-?

Ditto.

This kinda shit has been going on for some time up there. I doubt we'll see it closed down any time soon. One death every two year's is way less than the local average for the surrounding area.

KRAZZZY
10-22-2003, 09:17 PM
One death every two year's is way less than the local average for the surrounding area.

Such as every freaken fwy in Socal!

Rasp
10-25-2003, 09:16 PM
GMR was closed today.

dnakase
10-26-2003, 09:48 AM
Prolly 'cuz its high fire danger time.